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Old 03-14-2020, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Odds are that there are probably thousands more CV infected than what we know and the death rate is much smaller than what we think. Media just wants to make money. My prediction is that by the end of April everything is on the down turn, Memorial Day things are back to normal and right after the 4th Trump gets a trade deal with China and the market is roaring again.
I don't know what your resume looks like, but I will trust Dr. Anthony Fauci or some experts at John Hopkins and none of them that I see think it will be on the downturn by the end of April

You mention smokers as being a high risk group and, of course, you are right. But so is obesity which affects some 45% of US adults. High blood pressure is another risk factor as well as diabetes.

Hand washing is always a good idea, but it is also an airborne virus, too. In fact, Michael Osterholm questions how much hand washing really helps stop the spreading of this disease at around the 44 minute mark here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I understand the differences and the implications. That is not my point. My point is that a professor from Johns Hopkins is saying something different than Dr. Fauci. That is the problem, that we are getting mixed messages. I don't know who is right but I would tend to think that the professor is closer to the research than an administrator.

As I said, the epidemiologists need to get together and get their stories straight.
Makary is the one who wrote the asinine article claiming medical errors are the third largest cause of death in the US (they are not).

Dr. Fauci:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/anthony-fauci/

"Fauci is a highly decorated doctor who has contributed significantly to the understanding of humans’ immune responses. He has also developed therapies that have successfully addressed previously fatal inflammatory and immunity diseases, according to his NIAID biography. The profile also states that Fauci is the 41st most cited researcher of all time."
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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America had 994 cases on 3.10
At 2:06 am 3.15, we have 2999 cases.

Daily New Cases in the United States
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:16 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Default Gilead Science (a pharmaceutical corp) working on a drug to treat Covid-19

Starting 10 days ago, a pharmaceutical company gave a new drug to 14 Americans from the Diamond Princess cruise ship who had contracted coronavirus (Covid-19). The dose was repeated daily. None of them have died yet, though 5 are still critical.

Great that none of them have died.

But I'm curious about the math here. If Covid-19 has a 3% mortality rate, doesn't that mean that out of 33 people who have Covid-19, on average one might die?

So if you pick only 14 people who have it, aren't the chances better than even that NONE of them would die... even if you didn't give them any "treatment"?

Maybe it's not quite time to declare success yet.

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https://www.investors.com/news/techn...promise-japan/

Gilead Pops After Coronavirus Drug Helps Cruise Ship Patients In Japan

Shares of GILD stock popped Friday on reportedly promising results for its experimental coronavirus treatment in 14 Americans hospitalized in Japan.

The results are some of the earliest for Gilead Sciences' (GILD) remdesivir, an antiviral that was previously under testing for Ebola virus. Now, the biotech company is hoping to use it to treat Covid-19, a form of coronavirus discovered in December in China.

According to the Wall Street Journal, 14 Americans aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship who contracted Covid-19 were given remdesivir intravenously once a day for 10 days. As of Friday, all 14 were still alive and more than half had recovered.

Five remain critically ill, Rear Adm. Richard Childs, an assistant surgeon general and lung specialist at the National Institutes of Health, reportedly said.
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:23 AM
 
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America had 994 cases on 3.10
At 2:06 am 3.15, we have 2999 cases.

Daily New Cases in the United States

Quite encouraging that 2,930 of the affected are either in mild or recovered/discharged categories.
That is 97.7% of the affected.
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Quite encouraging that 2,930 of the affected are either in mild or recovered/discharged categories.
That is 97.7% of the affected.
For 3000 cases, that is good news. For 400,000 cases, not as good
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:32 AM
 
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For 3000 cases, that is good news. For 400,000 cases, not as good
We have 3,000.

If I knew what we end up with, I'd buy MegaMillions tickets and win the jackpot.

I am delighted we cut Asian travel out quickly, and added EU as well. Cut additional sources out of the picture.
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Starting 10 days ago, a pharmaceutical company gave a new drug to 14 Americans from the Diamond Princess cruise ship who had contracted coronavirus (Covid-19). The dose was repeated daily. None of them have died yet, though 5 are still critical.

Great that none of them have died.

But I'm curious about the math here. If Covid-19 has a 3% mortality rate, doesn't that mean that out of 33 people who have Covid-19, on average one might die?

So if you pick only 14 people who have it, aren't the chances better than even that NONE of them would die... even if you didn't give them any "treatment"?

Maybe it's not quite time to declare success yet.

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https://www.investors.com/news/techn...promise-japan/

Gilead Pops After Coronavirus Drug Helps Cruise Ship Patients In Japan

Shares of GILD stock popped Friday on reportedly promising results for its experimental coronavirus treatment in 14 Americans hospitalized in Japan.

The results are some of the earliest for Gilead Sciences' (GILD) remdesivir, an antiviral that was previously under testing for Ebola virus. Now, the biotech company is hoping to use it to treat Covid-19, a form of coronavirus discovered in December in China.

According to the Wall Street Journal, 14 Americans aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship who contracted Covid-19 were given remdesivir intravenously once a day for 10 days. As of Friday, all 14 were still alive and more than half had recovered.

Five remain critically ill, Rear Adm. Richard Childs, an assistant surgeon general and lung specialist at the National Institutes of Health, reportedly said.
The 3% is the overall rate.

The fatality rate is affected by the age of the patient and the severity of the disease, so you would need to know the ages of your 33 hypothetical people and how sick they were. The nursing home outbreak in WA state accounts for 25 of 32 deaths in that county.

The average age of the patients in the Gilead study is 75 and all were in critical condition.

The death rate in critically ill patients is almost 50%.

Study of 72,000 COVID-19 patients finds 2.3% death rate | CIDRAP

"Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR of 2.3%. The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79. Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%."

That none of the remdesivir treated patients have died yet is extremely promising.
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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My prediction is that it will be much worse by the end of April than you can possibly imagine because the number of infections will continue to double twice a week.
Double 2K about 10 times..............



Flu, which has a vaccine used by 169M Americans yearly, kills 12,000.
There is no vaccine for Coronavirus.......
I sure hope they get a handle on this thing....If it continues to double twice a week that will mean over 3 million infected in 4 weeks.
 
Old 03-15-2020, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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The odd thing is that from my understanding, the fact that so many folks only have mild symptoms also makes it potentially deadlier than other viruses. There's that and also the fact that folks are infectious before they realize they are sick, so they spread it around without knowing about it. That's why most folks who know way more about this stuff than I do think we are in for a long haul

The travel ban will help, but we also need to be socially distant or whatever they are calling it today
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