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Old 06-13-2020, 03:13 AM
 
Location: California
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Systemic shoplifting is real
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:06 AM
 
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Default Dave Chappelle 8 46

Dave was in rare form.


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Old 06-13-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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Lol, Indentured Servant will no doubt be delighted he got someone to agree to his illogical train of thought!
Not sure how its illogical?


Why lock up only hair care products for black people? Is it acceptable to steal white hair care products then?
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Not sure how its illogical?


Why lock up only hair care products for black people? Is it acceptable to steal white hair care products then?
We had a very long discussion on this topic here yesterday, in which Indentured Servant’s argument was blown out of the water and he disappeared, only to re-emerge here and attempt it again. lol.

Stores are increasingly keeping often-stolen items locked up. In addition to black hair care these items include:

Baby formula
Allergy medication
Diet aids
Razors
Tobacco products
Vape products
Condoms
High-end hair care
Perfumes

These are products used by people of all ethnicities and races. At the end of the day black people are NOT the only people inconvenienced by having to go to a register to get assistance to buy products.

Seriously, it’s petty crap like this that makes people turn their attention away from important issues. This is a non-issue. Get real.
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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We had a very long discussion on this topic here yesterday, in which Indentured Servant’s argument was blown out of the water and he disappeared, only to re-emerge here and attempt it again. lol.

Stores are increasingly keeping often-stolen items locked up. In addition to black hair care these items include:

Baby formula
Allergy medication
Diet aids
Razors
Tobacco products
Vape products
Condoms
High-end hair care
Perfumes

These are products used by people of all ethnicities and races. At the end of the day black people are NOT the only people inconvenienced by having to go to a register to get assistance to buy products.

Seriously, it’s petty crap like this that makes people turn their attention away from important issues. This is a non-issue. Get real.
These products are not locked up at EVERY store though, it seems to be only certain locations. This was on Facebook as well, I was surprised how many people were saying the stores they went to, nothing was kept locked up, so if its only stores in certain locations...that is a problem.


How much security is a locked case going to provide anyway? The ones Ive seen are pretty shoddy, if people are intent to steal, they will find a way. We have tried security doors in some of our stores, but they are not that effective, people just found a way to break them open with a screw driver or a pocket knife.
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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These products are not locked up at EVERY store though, it seems to be only certain locations. This was on Facebook as well, I was surprised how many people were saying the stores they went to, nothing was kept locked up, so if its only stores in certain locations...that is a problem.


How much security is a locked case going to provide anyway? The ones Ive seen are pretty shoddy, if people are intent to steal, they will find a way. We have tried security doors in some of our stores, but they are not that effective, people just found a way to break them open with a screw driver or a pocket knife.
Retail establishments have very sophisticated inventory software that literally can tell them what has been stolen by the day from their locations. Obviously some cities are going to have more trouble with shoplifting than others based on location, therefore individual store policies will vary. Why is that a problem? Some stores near high schools have higher theft rates than stores in areas surrounded by senior citizens. Some stores are in the middle of urban cities and experience more shoplifting than stores in rural areas.

This is a manufactured problem that is not rooted in reality. Retail corporations are free to use loss prevention methods to decrease their losses. Don’t like it? Shop somewhere else. Calling it systemic racism is nothing short of idiocy.
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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Retail establishments have very sophisticated inventory software that literally can tell them what has been stolen by the day from their locations. Obviously some cities are going to have more trouble with shoplifting than others based on location, therefore individual store policies will vary. Why is that a problem? Some stores near high schools have higher theft rates than stores in areas surrounded by senior citizens. Some stores are in the middle of urban cities and experience more shoplifting than stores in rural areas.

This is a manufactured problem that is not rooted in reality. Retail corporations are free to use loss prevention methods to decrease their losses. Don’t like it? Shop somewhere else.
Well, if the stores are now quickly abandoning these security measures due to the public calling them out, maybe there is something to the argument?


If it was based purely on the numbers, the stores wouldnt change their policy, no matter how many people complained about it.


Did the stores even attempt to explain why these measures are in place...or did they just cave and agree to remove them?
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Well, if the stores are now quickly abandoning these security measures due to the public calling them out, maybe there is something to the argument?


If it was based purely on the numbers, the stores wouldnt change their policy, no matter how many people complained about it.


Did the stores even attempt to explain why these measures are in place...or did they just cave and agree to remove them?
Corporations are bending over backwards right now to appease our black population. It’s like they JUST realized that black consumers have money and will take it elsewhere. It doesn’t make every new policy on their behalf a smart one. It’s called pandering.
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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I created a separate topic for Dave's commentary. Why has it been merged into this? He is not talking about hair care products!!!!! Maybe someone wants what Dave is saying HIDDEN. Yet, Tucker Carlson gets his own stand alone post with his commentary???

The choice to move this topic and hide it in this thread was very AMERICAN.

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Old 06-13-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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These products are not locked up at EVERY store though, it seems to be only certain locations. This was on Facebook as well, I was surprised how many people were saying the stores they went to, nothing was kept locked up, so if its only stores in certain locations...that is a problem.
Right, to add to to the previous poster, anti theft measures are very store specific. The same chain store next to the university has a very different theft profile than the store five miles away in the residential area with a lot of young families, different from the store in the business district that gets professionals on their breaks and after work, different from the store close to the low income senior center. Those groups all have different needs and the shoplifting incidents reflect that too.
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Well, if the stores are now quickly abandoning these security measures due to the public calling them out, maybe there is something to the argument?


If it was based purely on the numbers, the stores wouldnt change their policy, no matter how many people complained about it.


Did the stores even attempt to explain why these measures are in place...or did they just cave and agree to remove them?
They cave because they don't want negative publicity. They'll eat the cost of the losses, for a while. Then they will either go back to some other type of security measures or they'll just stop having the product available.

A lot of security measures are often taken for individual products, but sometimes an entire category has such a high rate of theft that the entire category gets locked up, razor blades being one that comes to mind immediately.
And it goes both ways you know. We recently 'unlocked' two secured categories at work because theft rates on those items have gone way down. Of course we'll be keeping a very close eye on the numbers to see if being unlocked causes the rates to skyrocket again, but so far so good.
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