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Old 07-18-2020, 05:17 PM
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I find it funny that many of the Trump haters and we have to close business people are talking out the other side of their mouths now that their jobs are on the line.

The media has done a good job with the fear mongering. Most parents are not skilled enough to teach their children. Parents have to get back to work and can't afford babysitters - that defeats the purpose of going back to work. This virtual learning is not in the best interest of many students - especially handicapped or special needs children who need more one on one. I know of one mother who has adopted 5 special needs children she fostered. She's at the end of her rope - she can love and support them but she can't be the teacher they need.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If they provide teachers with hooded transparent medical masks, we might be able to hold in-person classes while keeping their risk to a minimum.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:20 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Hey, I have a full time job and two kids. I worked weekends and M-F while doing the online thing with my kids all spring. It was really hard. I'll do what I have to do, but the idea of just cutting it all off or putting the kids at risk doesn't add any value. We're in a pandemic and we all need to deal.
Airlines are "dealing" with it by providing better service and cutting fares down dramatically. Car companies are "dealing" with it by slashing car prices and providing door-to-door service for no cost yet it costs them more money. Retailers are "dealing" with by limiting the amount of people in a store therefore lowering their sales and lowering their income. I can go on and on. Almost every single industry has been hit, some harder than others like I just mentioned.

None of them are telling the consumers to pay more for less. Yet, schools are selling us exactly that, with a straight face nonetheless. While you may buy that argument, I can't and won't.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:24 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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If they provide teachers with hooded transparent medical masks, we might be able to hold in-person classes while keeping their risk to a minimum.
So teachers again require something special that millions of people that go in to work don't? Masks, washing hands frequently, frequent disinfecting of work equipment? That's not good enough for teachers but it's good enough for a factory worker?
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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They found 5 pediatricians who would sign their names to their statement that they would send their children back to in school education (and I would too, actually, but that's beside the point) and you believe that it follows that 100% of scientists agree that our children should return to class.

You believe this article says that. That 100% of scientists agree our children should return to class.

If your post is satire, good one. If not, um. Critical thinking skills, and all.
I took it as satire, but it’s not all that different from the ‘97% of scientists agree that humans are contributing to global warming’ claim. It wasn’t 97% of all scientists. It was 97% of a specific subset of scientists.

In any case, these are doctors saying they would send their kids back. Does that not count for anything? Aren’t we supposed to be looking to those with a certain level of knowledge to figure out what to do? AAP has said kids should go back. This one has better credentials than pediatrician, even.

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"It really shouldn't be a debate of getting kids back to school, but getting kids back to school safely," said Dr. Jennifer Lighter, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health in New York.
Mental health should not be minimized or neglected, either.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53037702

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The delay in getting children and adolescents back to schools is a "national disaster" that is putting their mental health at risk, say leading psychologists.
In an open letter to Education Secretary Gavin Williamson, they say the isolation of lockdown is harming already vulnerable young people.
Highlighting the low risk to children of Covid-19, they call for social distancing measures to be minimised.
And for a return to normal life.
In the letter, signed by more than 100 specialists in psychology, mental health and neuroscience, and published in The Sunday Times, they write: "As experts working across disciplines, we are united as we urge you to reconsider your decision and to release children and young people from lockdown.
I’m seeing this in my own kids, mostly my teenager, who has done the best academically during the shutdown. It’s time to do whatever it takes to get them back.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Well since most school districts are funded by property tax, schools in affluent areas with more resources are going to have the funding for a safer learning environment.

Other school districts, especially poor ones that are over crowded, won't have the same resources.


Guess what type of neighborhood (even private schools) Doctors usually live in? Their methods are flawed.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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Airlines are "dealing" with it by providing better service and cutting fares down dramatically. Car companies are "dealing" with it by slashing car prices and providing door-to-door service for no cost yet it costs them more money. Retailers are "dealing" with by limiting the amount of people in a store therefore lowering their sales and lowering their income. I can go on and on. Almost every single industry has been hit, some harder than others like I just mentioned.

None of them are telling the consumers to pay more for less. Yet, schools are selling us exactly that, with a straight face nonetheless. While you may buy that argument, I can't and won't.
I get it. My town just passed a prop to increase the tax to account for what's happening. It sucks. It all sucks. What's hard to swallow on my end is that I didn't sign up for this. I didn't put this sheet show into office, but I have to eat it. You can blame this POS, science illiterate, mentally ill administration for it. There is little we can do and we're certainly not in a position as parents to revolt.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:56 PM
 
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I took it as satire, but it’s not all that different from the ‘97% of scientists agree that humans are contributing to global warming’ claim. It wasn’t 97% of all scientists. It was 97% of a specific subset of scientists.
The only opinions that matter here on the science are climate scientists. Was is 97% of climate scientists? All the rest have little to contribute. Although, more than CTs.

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In any case, these are doctors saying they would send their kids back. Does that not count for anything? Aren’t we supposed to be looking to those with a certain level of knowledge to figure out what to do? AAP has said kids should go back. This one has better credentials than pediatrician, even.
Children on the lower end of the SES, and those with special needs, should go back. They, and their families, need to be propped up right now. Hopefully, the wealthier families, families that have more options, will be able to pick up some of the slack by keeping their kids home for virtual learning.
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Old 07-18-2020, 06:00 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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I get it. My town just passed a prop to increase the tax to account for what's happening. It sucks. It all sucks. What's hard to swallow on my end is that I didn't sign up for this. I didn't put this sheet show into office, but I have to eat it. You can blame this POS, science illiterate, mentally ill administration for it. There is little we can do and we're certainly not in a position as parents to revolt.
I don't associate everything with Trump, or Obama for that matter. I could care less. Sure we can revolt. If we were all to stop paying our property taxes, they'd listen. Money talks, and you know what walks.

Science says kids are safe in schools. Kids have almost zero chance of developing any serious complications from this virus. On top of it they get to be with their own peers, where they're supposed to be and have somewhat of a healthy normal life.

This is about teachers throwing a fit. If they're so important as they say they are then go to school. If not, sit home and collect unemployment like millions others and let other people come in and teach. But, no, they want to "feel safe" by not being in classrooms, and collect full wage.
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Old 07-18-2020, 06:02 PM
 
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Link: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-back-to-class

Science matters. And the science tells us that the schools need to be re-opened. Contrary to the science, the evil Democrats and teachers' unions want to keep the schools closed and punish children to further their political agenda. There is no low the left won't sink to.

5 pediatricians were asked? Are you serious with this thread?


And, I thought that liberals want kids in school so the can indoctrinate them all the leftist brainwashing people on the right claim is always going on.
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