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Old 06-07-2021, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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And?

This is a DISCUSSION forum, NOT post and run with nothing from the poster on what they post.

I wish the mods would close this type of posting.
I am sorry but you are insane to think that you can tell if a poster is a "hit and run" artist ON PAGE 1 OF A THREAD.

Good grief!
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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Some areas, like Memphis, have always been this way. I've had to familiarize myself with the history of Memphis. I've also read a few pieces written by Thomas Sowell. Today, the inner cities have either been allowed to rot, or people use gentrification to move people OUT of those areas. Gangs, out of wedlock birth rates, broken homes,etc. You can't make someone not join a gang. You can't make someone control their loins (and cutting off welfare won't adequately solve that problem). Some problems can be solved with rigorous enforcement of the laws. Others, such as a person's mentality, the culture of violence, won't just go away with laws.
Exactly, and this is why band-aids like banning pistol braces, black semi auto rifles, and background checks will do little. The none critical thinkers, or the uninformed just don't get this.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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And what’s the racial makeup of these killings compared to the racial Makeup of Italy? It’s a fair question since race is brought up relentlessly every time a black person is shot by a white person. I lived in Chicago and every murder was mostly from one race. If you don’t factor in that one race the homicide rate would be low.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:43 AM
 
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Exactly, and this is why band-aids like banning pistol braces, black semi auto rifles, and background checks will do little. The none critical thinkers, or the uninformed just don't get this.
And it's been an issue for ages. I think about this. Vermont is one of the easiest places to get a gun. It has one of the lowest murder rates in America. It has a murder rate on par with Canada. Vermont actually has a lower homicide rate than the UK or Italy. In 2019, Vermont recorded 11 murders. Not bad for a state with a population close to 624,000. I've looked at homicide data for Vermont going as far back as the late 1940s. Vermont has always had a low homicide rate.

On the flip side, I look at Tennessee and Mississippi. Between 1949-1951, Tennessee had a homicide rate of 10 per 100,000. It was one of the highest in the USA for that time. I suspect alot of it came from Memphis. It wasn't the highest. That goes to Mississippi. Mississippi's homicide rate, 1949-1951, was 16 per 100,000.

Source: CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series...r20_006acc.pdf

Putting a band-aid on the problem requires little critical thinking. It also says some people can't think of good ideas.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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Hmm... What is the common denominator, I wonder?
We've heard it alot before. There are people who bring this up on other threads.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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Goes to show how much difference disarming the populace can make.

A person can buy a gun in either European country, but it's not nearly as easy there as it is here.

I'm not saying it's bad or good that it's so easy to obtain a firearm here, but the ease contributes to our homicide rate.

It's up to the individual as to whether they think it's bad, good, or indifferent.
No sane free person would EVER want the government to disarm them.

that's just stooooooopid.

Look at the demographics and family structures. That will lead you to the issues at hand.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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No sane free person would EVER want the government to disarm them.

that's just stooooooopid.

Look at the demographics and family structures. That will lead you to the issues at hand.
Here is the thing. Some issues can be solved through rigorous enforcing of the law. Many issues can't be solved through the law. Some of the root causes can't be solved through the law.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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Here is the thing. Some issues can be solved through rigorous enforcing of the law. Many issues can't be solved through the law. Some of the root causes can't be solved through the law.
Well, many cultures don't believe in abiding by the law.

If you look at the statistics, Mexico, by FAR FAR FAR and away leads the world in murders. Central America and South America are right behind, followed by Africa.

In Mexico, there are very strict gun laws.

This is about culture, not about "laws."
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:56 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Apparently the democrat voters are fine with those numbers. Innocent lives in exchange for installed socialism. Innocent lives in exchange for a political narrative to further a socialist agenda.

Mass murders due to climate change and covid, business as usual for the socialists and lingering dems wondering how their party got hijacked.

Let's see a monument dedicated to the innocent lives lost and buried by the media as a favor to the democrat socialists. Essentially an 'unknown innocents', only unknown because of the media's complicity and lack of a conscience.

time for a name change and abandonment of the dem party.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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And it's been an issue for ages. I think about this. Vermont is one of the easiest places to get a gun. It has one of the lowest murder rates in America. It has a murder rate on par with Canada. Vermont actually has a lower homicide rate than the UK or Italy. In 2019, Vermont recorded 11 murders. Not bad for a state with a population close to 624,000. I've looked at homicide data for Vermont going as far back as the late 1940s. Vermont has always had a low homicide rate.

On the flip side, I look at Tennessee and Mississippi. Between 1949-1951, Tennessee had a homicide rate of 10 per 100,000. It was one of the highest in the USA for that time. I suspect alot of it came from Memphis. It wasn't the highest. That goes to Mississippi. Mississippi's homicide rate, 1949-1951, was 16 per 100,000.

Source: CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series...r20_006acc.pdf

Putting a band-aid on the problem requires little critical thinking. It also says some people can't think of good ideas.
I know people want to lead this into a "it's a black thing" , but it really isn't. Yes, I do believe a small percentage of a demographic that is already a small percentage of our population disproportionately commits crime, but that is a whole other issue.

Look at the violence in Portland , the school shootings, the road rage incidents, etc. We have people in an otherwise peaceful populace that just go off the deep end.
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