Memphis and Baltimore have more homicides than all of Italy. Jackson has more homicides than London (drugs, death)

[Berteau]

Originally Posted by scarabchuck

I won't argue any of this. Black people aren't the only ones committing crimes though. Why is there a certain age group of white males that decide to kill as many of their classmates at one time ?

So why did you have to add that black people “aren’t the only ones committing crimes”, but then you talked about white males in the following sentence and you didn’t say the same thing. You spoke about white males as if they were the only ones killing classmates without the “aren’t the only ones committing crimes” part.

[Berteau]

Originally Posted by Leo58

Wrong. He said that white supremacists are our biggest TERROR threat right now. Gang killings, people getting shot during a robbery, etc are not considered terrorism.

When it comes to true terrorism - mass shootings, assassinations and bombings - they are more likely to come from white supremacists than from, say, Islamic militants.

How many white supremacy mass killings have there been this year? Refresh my memory. And the only reason there aren’t more Islamic terrorist attacks are because we spend billions every year and all our resources trying to prevent them. It doesn’t mean they are any less of a threat. If we stoped spending all the time, money, and resources preventing them these attacks would be a common occurrence.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by Berteau

So why did you have to add that black people “aren’t the only ones committing crimes”, but then you talked about white males in the following sentence and you didn’t say the same thing. You spoke about white males as if they were the only ones killing classmates without the “aren’t the only ones committing crimes” part.

Because I didn't....It was a general statement. Although, if you go back to Columbine, what demographic is most represented in school shootings ? I haven't fact checked it, just going off of memory. Look it up and get back to us.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by scarabchuck

I know people want to lead this into a "it's a black thing" , but it really isn't. Yes, I do believe a small percentage of a demographic that is already a small percentage of our population disproportionately commits crime, but that is a whole other issue.

Look at the violence in Portland , the school shootings, the road rage incidents, etc. We have people in an otherwise peaceful populace that just go off the deep end.

Per capita, there are more Black people being victims and perpetrators of murders. It don't see as exclusively a Black thing. I've read Thomas Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals. In that essay, it delves into the ghetto culture and where its roots come from. Alot of it originates from the "honor culture" of the South during the 19th century.

I will refer to the data I got from the Center of Disease Control, 1949-1951 (for some reason, getting homicide data from the CDC is easier than getting it from the police department websites).

Top 10 states in 1949-1951:
Mississippi (16 per 100,000)
Alabama (14.5 per 100,000)
Georgia (14.5 per 100,000)
Florida (12.2 per 100,000)
South Carolina (12.2 per 100,000)
Texas (10.4 per 100,000)
Tennessee (10 per 100,000)
Louisiana (9.8 per 100,000)
Nevada (9.6 per 100,000)
North Carolina (9.6 per 100,000)

States with the highest White homicide rates back then:
Kentucky (6.8 per 100,000)
New Mexico (6 per 100,000)
Texas (5.8 per 100,000)
South Carolina (5.7 per 100,000)
Tennessee (5.1 per 100,000)
Georgia (5.1 per 100,000)
Alabama (5.1 per 100,000)
Mississippi (4.4 per 100,000)
West Virginia (4.4 per 100,000)
Florida (4.3 per 100,000)

States with highest non-White homicide rate(data for Black homicide rates specifically isn't available, so most of the Great Plains and most of the West isn't used for this purpose):
Texas (42.4 per 100,000)
Florida (39.8 per 100,000)
Missouri (38.9 per 100,000)
Delaware (38 per 100,000)
West Virginia (37.9 per 100,000)
Georgia (37.7 per 100,000)
Kentucky (37.1 per 100,000)
Alabama (36.5 per 100,000)
Tennessee (35.6 per 100,000)
Ohio and Indiana (33.7 per 100,000)

States that had high homicide rates for both Blacks and Whites included Georgia, Florida, Texas, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia. One thing to wonder about is this. What was driving it? And today, why have Georgia and Texas calmed down?

[paracord]

Originally Posted by NigerianNightmare

London actually has a lower homicide rate than Vermont and Maine and it’s consistently been the same or a bit lower over the last decade. London also has over a million black people. Far more than Jackson, Saint Louis or Memphis.

Blacks make up about 13% of London's population. They make up 45% of St. Louis'

[paracord]

Originally Posted by Leo58

Wrong. He said that white supremacists are our biggest TERROR threat right now. Gang killings, people getting shot during a robbery, etc are not considered terrorism.

When it comes to true terrorism - mass shootings, assassinations and bombings - they are more likely to come from white supremacists than from, say, Islamic militants.

That's wrong. Once again, blacks were responsible for the most mass killings last year.

Remember: The media doesn't cover mass killings in Chicago perpetrated by black people. That doesn't fit their narrative.

They only cover mass killings in suburbia by white people.

[paracord]

Originally Posted by scarabchuck

Because I didn't....It was a general statement. Although, if you go back to Columbine, what demographic is most represented in school shootings ? I haven't fact checked it, just going off of memory. Look it up and get back to us.

SCHOOL shootings, probably white people.

Mass killings in general, and overall killings, black people.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by paracord

Blacks make up about 13% of London's population. They make up 45% of St. Louis'

Blacks are 52% of Atlanta's population. Atlanta's murder rate is 1/4 what St. Louis' murder rate is.

[paracord]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Blacks are 52% of Atlanta's population. Atlanta's murder rate is 1/4 what St. Louis' murder rate is.

I'd bet the economic conditions are worse in St Louis.

I don't care what color you are, if you are living in poverty and in high population density, there will be more crime and murder.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by paracord

I'd bet the economic conditions are worse in St Louis.

I don't care what color you are, if you are living in poverty and in high population density, there will be more crime and murder.

That was the whole point. Atlanta has a larger middle class within its Black population than St. Louis. And more educated individuals within it as well.

As for high poverty rates with high population density, that can be put to the test right now. Missouri, Wisconsin, Indiana, Louisiana, Tennessee, have some of the highest Black homicide rates in the nation. Missouri has come into the #1 spot so many times. In fact, Missouri's over all murder rate is higher than that over Georgia (Blacks are 11% of Missouri's population, 32% of Georgia's population). Much of Missouri's Black population is concentrated in St. Louis and Kansas City. Same goes for Wisconsin. 70% of Wisconsin's Black population is in Milwaukee proper. And Milwaukee has been rated one of the worst cities for Black people.

Mississippi, on the other hand, has a surprisingly low Black homicide rate. Mississippi has a high homicide rate over all. However, Jackson is what drives alot of it. A large proportion of Mississippi's Black population is rural. It's a poor state, and it's Black population is one of the poorest in America. However, get into the rural areas and the murder rates drop dramatically. Georgia has a mix of everyone. Many poor Blacks live in Georgia. So do alot of middle class Blacks. And alot of rural Blacks. This plays a role for a relatively low Black homicide rate.

States with high Black homicide rates tend to have large numbers of poor and underclass Blacks concentrated in rural areas. In Tennessee, Memphis is a major part of that. Indiana, it's Gary and Indianapolis. In Louisiana, New Orleans and Baton Rouge drive alot of it.