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Kinda funny Jimmy Carters foreign Policy and Bidens are pretty similar.
You prefer bombing our enemies that results in getting Americans killed?
I would not be surprised if the Taliban gave the USA trouble for the next 100 years. Revenge is important to some. They probably already have cells in this country. After all, while meeting with the Taliban POTUS Trump and the SoS said they were smart.
Those were outdated and no real concern to us. Blackhawk helicopters are a different story. Biden had a brainfart cost our nation bigly. Miss Trump yet America?
Those F-14s were not "outdated" in 1979. They were the same ones being deployed to the Fleet as the frontline interceptor.
Now, we were upgrading the engines at the time but they were the same state of the art aircraft we were using and included the Phoenix missile system.
What a DUMB thread a few thousand taliban vs over 216.6 million pakistanis!!
Yes, it is highly unlikely. Also the Taliban, according to Ralph Peters, is much more regionalized rather than internationalist. That is why they did not like bin Laden and actually offered him to the US at one point.
We also tend to forget that the Islamist countries tend to hate each other as much as they hate us. Google a list of world armed conflicts, and a large number of them are invariably Muslim on Muslim.
This alone should get him impeached, along with everyone running the pentagon. This is ludicrous... No, that word is not even strong enough... Wow.
Maybe Trump should not have released the Taliban leader from Prison, and make a deal with him outside of the Afghanistan Government. This was Trump's plan from the start Biden only continued with his plan because he wanted to get the US out of a war that he never agreed with even going back to 2009.
As a person who has witnesed ACFT FMS, you are wrong. We may sell them equipment that has the ability to be sensitive, but not until the FMS customer puts their own sensative technology in.
Gotta love the the expert arm chair q'backs that have ZERO clue on what is actually going on but just think they do.
You are the mayor of the wrongville. sensitive technologies on the HW side (night vision goggles, blackhawk helicopter ... ) was gone already, and I highly doubt that, in terms of the SW side, the Afh gov't employees would bother to follow the protocols when they ran away. So, Taliban have all the sensitive technologies. You can say that the level of "sensitivity" may not be high (too lazy to check the CCL). However, I can tell you that some of the technologies will help China and Russian.
The blood of every person hurt or killed because of the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan is the direct result of the failure of the Afghan army to fight. They were babysat for almost 20 years. At some point the US military was going to leave. It didn't matter if it was 2010 or 2025.
I saw a very interesting interview on CNN with a man who had worked with US/Afghans - he said there is NO NATIONAL UNITY OR IDENTITY among Afghanis and never will be because the country is so tribal.
The hinterlands are very primitive, illiteracy is rampant. In some areas, the country is still in the stone age. These people have no idea of the concept of "nation".
Therefore, the Afghan army evaporated. There is no cohesiveness among Afghanis on anything.
To expand on that, a Taliban leader when asked what law will prevail, answered "Sharia." He said "there is no base for Democracy in this country. The law is Sharia."
Of course, there isn't a "base" or sense of "nation" because the country is bunch of local tribes. If there is any commonality at all, it is religion. Thus, Afghanistan is a theocracy - and can never be a democracy.
Our original goal was to remove a safe haven for Al Quaeda. Now that Taliban is back, we can assume so will Al Quaeda or some permutation thereof.
We are less safe with this withdrawal. Our military was opposed to it for good reason - loss of intelligence and resurgence of Taliban and Al Quaeda.
Trump and other presidents have wanted out. Thus, Trump made the deal at Doha and began drawing down our troops. Mattis and MacMaster resigned.
Biden could have changed the trajectory of the withdrawal so at least we wouldn't have the debacle we see today.
But, in the end, our withdrawal has been the goal.
Thus, the battle with Al Quaeda, ISIS and other terrorists will need to be fought - again.
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Maybe Trump should not have released the Taliban leader from Prison, and make a deal with him outside of the Afghanistan Government. This was Trump's plan from the start Biden only continued with his plan because he wanted to get the US out of a war that he never agreed with even going back to 2009.
Dude - one thing has nothing to do with the other...
Trump did not coordinate this debacle. It amazes me how Biden, and people like you, still want to make every screwup Trump's fault. Biden has been president since January
I saw a very interesting interview on CNN with a man who had worked with US/Afghans - he said there is NO NATIONAL UNITY OR IDENTITY among Afghanis and never will be because the country is so tribal. The hinterlands are very primitive, illiteracy is rampant. In some areas, the country is still in the stone age. These people have no idea of the concept of "nation".
To expand on that, a Taliban leader when asked what law will prevail, answered "Sharia." He said "there is no base for Democracy in this country. The law is Sharia."
Of course, there isn't a "base" or sense of "nation" because the country is bunch of local tribes.
Our original goal was to remove a safe haven for Al Quaeda. Now that Taliban is back, we can assume so will Al Quaeda or some permutation thereof.
We are less safe with this withdrawal. Our military was opposed to it for good reason - loss of intelligence and resurgence of Taliban and Al Quaeda.
Trump and other presidents have wanted out. Thus, Trump made the deal at Doha and began drawing down our troops. Mattis and MacMaster resigned.
Biden could have changed the trajectory of the withdrawal so at least we wouldn't have the debacle we see today.
But, in the end, our withdrawal has been the goal.
Thus, the battle with Al Quaeda, ISIS and other terrorists has now been rejoined.
Not that I am arguing with your or disagreeing with your points; however, to point out the bolded above, there have been many here on this forum at least that will point out that "the military" never wants out of a military operation. It's one of the reasons that we had an Act put in place to deter having military or ex-military lead the DoD (which has gone by the wayside, BTW, and they get waivers). While you'd think the miltary wouldn't like these occupancies, many of them do and it's a way to gain power for them. They are not unbiased in the matter of should-I-stay-or-should-I-go.
Dude - one thing has nothing to do with the other...
Trump did not coordinate this debacle. It amazes me how Biden, and people like you, still want to make every screwup Trump's fault. Biden has been president since January
Which is 40 months less than the time Trump had the duty to deal with it...
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