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It was time to get out. Trump actually started the withdrawal. Twenty years, 2500+ US soldiers dead, 2 trillion dollars of your money wasted. Unless you're one of those that doesnt pay any taxes. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the late 70's. We backed the Afghans against the Soviets. Since then, our US solders have been fighting against the weapons we gave them. That you paid for.
'' President Biden made the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan a central piece of his foreign policy platform, enacting a plan set in motion by former president Donald Trump, who infamously negotiated with the Taliban for a hasty retreat.''
So blame anybody you want to. Its a free country to do that. In other countries you dont have those freedoms.
I was referring more to the continuing process that will evolve from the withdrawal being so poorly done.
It will create more “Afghanistans” for America. It’s demoralizing. It’s puts those America firsters in there place.
I believe what they’re counting on is something akin to the dissolution or picking up and moving or displacing of the idea of America. No terrorism towards American Imperialism as America has been superseded by something more global.
Marxist use the term Aufheben:
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Aufheben is a German word, crucial to Hegelian and Marxist thinking, for which there is no English equivalent.
Aufheben can be translated as to sublate, to abolish, to transcend or to supersede or even “to pick up,” “to raise,” “to keep,” “to preserve,” “to end” or “to annul.” Literally and originally, aufheben meant “to pocket,” as when someone pockets your payment but continues to work for you.
To set aside or to create something that supersedes. Enter “stakeholder capitalism.”
Stakeholder capitalism is also dialectical to capitalism. China tried communism, failed miserably and then had to move away back towards capitalism with state capitalism. The natural dialectical thing to propose would be a move away from capitalism to something closer to state capitalism. They call it stakeholder capitalism because, let’s face it, both systems are basically fascist. Fascism in the Nazi sense where there’s a facade of capitalism but really all decisions come from the central authoritarian government. In the case of the “communist” they have a totalizing system where they control people down to their very thoughts. Free expressions is basically outlawed. Dissent is impossible.
Marx’s predictions where from feudalism to capitalism to socialism to communism. And the motion to there is fluid.
At least that’s the way I see it. The move clearly makes no sense to most people. There has to be some ideology behind it. The one that fits most is a Marxian one.
I don’t know if people will allow them the time needed for the Marxist predictions to come true though. We have short attention spans and won’t stand too long for meddling and thought reform. Or totalitarianism.
Last edited by BigJon3475; 09-11-2021 at 03:31 PM..
13 American soldiers are dead and Afghan children killed by US drone because of the decisions you made.
Do you think an evacuation was ever going to take place without casualties?
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475
I was referring more to the continuing process that will evolve from the withdrawal being so poorly done.
It will create more “Afghanistans” for America. It’s demoralizing. It’s puts those America firsters in there place.
I believe what they’re counting on is something akin to the dissolution or picking up and moving or displacing of the idea of America. No terrorism towards American Imperialism as America has been superseded by something more global.
To set aside or to create something that supersedes. Enter “stakeholder capitalism.”
Stakeholder capitalism is also dialectical to capitalism. China tried communism, failed miserably and then had to move away back towards capitalism with state capitalism. The natural dialectical thing to propose would be a move away from capitalism to something closer to state capitalism. They call it stakeholder capitalism because, let’s face it, both systems are basically fascist. Fascism in the Nazi sense where there’s a facade of capitalism but really all decisions come from the central authoritarian government. In the case of the “communist” they have a totalizing system where they control people down to their very thoughts. Free expressions is basically outlawed. Dissent is impossible.
Marx’s predictions where from feudalism to capitalism to socialism to communism. And the motion to there is fluid.
At least that’s the way I see it. The move clearly makes no sense to most people. There has to be some ideology behind it. The one that fits most is a Marxian one.
I don’t know if people will allow them the time needed for the Marxist predictions to come true though. We have short attention spans and won’t stand too long for meddling and thought reform. Or totalitarianism.
Again, this evacuation could have been much worse than what actually happened. I don't have all the answers as to what mistakes were made. I don't know why we pulled troops out and then had to send more troops in. I'm sure the complete analysis will come out. Over 122,000 people have been airlifted abroad, by the US and other countries. That is a huge success. This event will not "create more “Afghanistans” for America." The mistake the US has made is thinking we can do nation building. It was not a mistake to send military forces into Afghanistan. The mistake was staying in the country when experts should have come to the conclusion that we were not going to be successful establishing a democratic country with a military that could defend it.
Doesn't anybody care anymore or is this old news already?
9/11
"Afghanistan.......21 more U.S. citizens evacuated from Afghanistan"........................Additionally, another Qatar Airways charter flight departed Kabul with 19 U.S. citizens aboard."
Maybe they “share the same dreams and aspirations” as the Taliban. Really all world dominating scenarios with technology result in the same outcome so who cares if it’s Sharia Law or “a world in chains.” They even have the same tone.
Doesn't anybody care anymore or is this old news already?
9/11
"Afghanistan.......21 more U.S. citizens evacuated from Afghanistan"........................Additionally, another Qatar Airways charter flight departed Kabul with 19 U.S. citizens aboard."
Why don't we know how many are left? Surely the friends and family back in the USA are aware they're there. And sure, you don't want to identify them for fear of the Taliban torturing or murdering them, but surely we should know the number. Is the Biden Regime even attempting to figure out how many Americans he abandoned to die there? One would think it'd be the least he could do, considering the mess he made of this withdrawal.
"Blinken added that 44 U.S. citizens were "offered seats," but "not all of them chose to travel." and
"Officials have said over the past several days that around 100 U.S. citizens seek to leave Afghanistan."
"Blinken added that 44 U.S. citizens were "offered seats," but "not all of them chose to travel." and
"Officials have said over the past several days that around 100 U.S. citizens seek to leave Afghanistan."
I watched an interview over the weekend with an American citizen (woman) who was offered a seat on a plane to get back. She and her husband were both interpretive contractors. She could get on a flight leaving the next morning, but her husband would not get a seat on that flight, and they could not guarantee he would get out at all. She turned down the offer, saying there was no way she was going to willingly leave her husband behind.
I watched an interview over the weekend with an American citizen (woman) who was offered a seat on a plane to get back. She and her husband were both interpretive contractors. She could get on a flight leaving the next morning, but her husband would not get a seat on that flight, and they could not guarantee he would get out at all. She turned down the offer, saying there was no way she was going to willingly leave her husband behind.
I've heard the mainstream propaganda media pretend that all who decline want to stay as opposed don't want to abandon family until they all can go.
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