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Old 09-19-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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Trying to do the right thing?

Only after Biden and Milley were caught in lies.

Biden and Milley are the PoSs that claimed there was a secondary explosion proving it was a terrorist car, but refused to release the video. Claimed it was a "high profile" ISIS guy, but refused to name the name.

Biden and Milley would have continued to lie had it not been exposed with video evidence on the ground.
Enough already.

You were upset when they lied. Now you are upset because they are taking responsibility for the drone killings? The Afghan people and the people around the world for that matter don't see this as a democrat or republican issue. They see these drone killings as an American wrongdoing.

I did not vote for Biden, but I am still an American. Admitting we made a mistake and compensating the victims' family is the right to do as a nation.
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Old 09-19-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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Enough already.

You were upset when they lied. Now you are upset because they are taking responsibility for the drone killings? The Afghan people and the people around the world for that matter don't see this as a democrat or republican issue. They see these drone killings as an American wrongdoing.

I did not vote for Biden, but I am still an American. Admitting we made a mistake and compensating the victims' family is the right to do as a nation.
Duplicity is not used all the time. There is a third component here and that’s asking why did this tragedy happen? Was it also a “wag the dog” events?

So the pentagon lied about the drone attack as “righteous”, admitted it only after the New York Times of all things, dug into the lack of evidence, and the question pentagon spokesman Carney said he had seen proof there were secondary explosions, apparently from water bottles .
NOW everyone is asking how did this horrible tragedy happen?

It is now likely that everyone will question the details about the two “high profile bomb facilitators” that were killed by drones and yet remain unnamed?
https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/28/p...e-one-wounded/

American just doesn’t pay off the victims and move on. This van was full of aid workers, to include children, and was transporting water. Big intelligence mistake if you want to believe only bad intelligence is to blame.
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Old 09-19-2021, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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For anyone interested, an official report on the whole mess:

"The U.S. government’s inability to get the right people into the right jobs at the right times was one of the most significant failures of the mission. It is also one of the hardest to repair. U.S. personnel in Afghanistan were often unqualified and poorly trained, and those who were qualified were difficult to retain. DOD police advisors watched American TV shows to learn about policing, civil affairs teams were mass-produced via PowerPoint presentations, and every agency experienced annual lobotomies as staff constantly rotated out, leaving successors to start from scratch and make similar mistakes all over again. These dynamics had direct effects on the quality of reconstruction. There were often not enough staff to oversee the spending, and certainly not enough who were qualified to do so. This was particularly true for civilian agencies, such as State or the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which should have been leading the effort but were unable to meaningfully perform that role. This compelled the better-resourced DOD to fill the void, creating tensions with civilian agencies that often had different ideas but fewer staff to offer."

https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/lessonslea...R-21-46-LL.pdf
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:26 AM
 
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Enough already.

You were upset when they lied. Now you are upset because they are taking responsibility for the drone killings? The Afghan people and the people around the world for that matter don't see this as a democrat or republican issue. They see these drone killings as an American wrongdoing.

I did not vote for Biden, but I am still an American. Admitting we made a mistake and compensating the victims' family is the right to do as a nation.
What exactly are they doing to make it right?

They lied to the world and that is despicable. They are only changing their tune, because they were caught lying and they haven't admitted to the lie.

I want then to admit to the lie and then make $$$ restitution to surviving family members.

They refused to release the video footage, because the secondary explosion was a BS lie to paint them as terrorists. They refused to release the name of name of the "high profile" terrorist, because it was all a lie. They lied. Own up.

Biden is a PoS.

Milley is a PoS.
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Old 09-19-2021, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Horrible logic.

Troops have been dying in Afghanistan for 20 years.

Should we not be upset about the 13 who died either, due to pure incompetence by Joe Biden?
Only if these people were consistent and claimed every president for the last 20 years was incompetent when the other 2,000 soldiers were killed. This seems to have received more attention compared to the other thousands of deaths. But if people were consistent with their criticism of deaths to soldiers and killing of civilians by drones and bombings then it's fair.
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Old 09-19-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Only if these people were consistent and claimed every president for the last 20 years was incompetent when the other 2,000 soldiers were killed. This seems to have received more attention compared to the other thousands of deaths. But if people were consistent with their criticism of deaths to soldiers and killing of civilians by drones and bombings then it's fair.

To the bold, did you write this with a straight face, or did your computer get hacked?
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Old 09-19-2021, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Worrying about civilians dying this year after 20 years of civilian deaths, obviously political.
Unless, of course, if Trump did it, right?
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Old 09-19-2021, 06:29 PM
 
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Duplicity is not used all the time. There is a third component here and that’s asking why did this tragedy happen? Was it also a “wag the dog” events?

So the pentagon lied about the drone attack as “righteous”, admitted it only after the New York Times of all things, dug into the lack of evidence, and the question pentagon spokesman Carney said he had seen proof there were secondary explosions, apparently from water bottles .
NOW everyone is asking how did this horrible tragedy happen?

It is now likely that everyone will question the details about the two “high profile bomb facilitators” that were killed by drones and yet remain unnamed?
https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/28/p...e-one-wounded/

American just doesn’t pay off the victims and move on. This van was full of aid workers, to include children, and was transporting water. Big intelligence mistake if you want to believe only bad intelligence is to blame.
The Pentagon lied a lot about Vietnam.

The Pentagon lied about the SCUD hunt in the Iraq War (which actually did not kill a single SCUD).

The Pentagon lies about every friendly fire incident, until enough facts come to light.
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Old 09-19-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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So Biden et al made a big deal about the drone strike being "payback" for the Islamic terrorists killing 13 of our soldiers. (Remember how he said he would find out who did it, and make them pay?) In reality, he killed an aide worker and his children.

So what is the response to the Islamic scumbags who murdered 13 young soldiers? To "negotiate" with them for release of the Americans Biden left behind while calling the terrorists businesslike and professional? They got away with murder. Apparently, in Biden's America, there is no retribution when Islamic terrorists kill Americans.
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Old 09-19-2021, 07:35 PM
 
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So Biden et al made a big deal about the drone strike being "payback" for the Islamic terrorists killing 13 of our soldiers. (Remember how he said he would find out who did it, and make them pay?) In reality, he killed an aide worker and his children.

So what is the response to the Islamic scumbags who murdered 13 young soldiers? To "negotiate" with them for release of the Americans Biden left behind while calling the terrorists businesslike and professional? They got away with murder. Apparently, in Biden's America, there is no retribution when Islamic terrorists kill Americans.
No, negotiation was with the Taliban with whom, as you might know, the previous president made a deal. The recent attack was by ISIS.

P.S, Now, if you didn't like the deal made with them in February 2020, you could have called it a surrender deal and express outrage. Did you? (I'm asking).

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