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This article clearly states that the locals place a high value on their women, and children. If USA/NATO accidentally kills one, the whole village will go over to the TBan, as is TBan's strategy.
But if so, then why do the locals treat women so badly. See the famed Farkhunda Malikzada. The article states that her death has to be avenged. Did the perpetrators have vigilanted justice brought upon them. I think not.
The US did not provide the Afghan army with any super duper secret stuff, everything there is neutered. We do this with almost everything we sell to other countries with very few exceptions. Russia does the same things; that S-400 system say they sell to Iran, is not going to have the critical, secret software for example, the Russian owned system will have.
It is a contingency in planning in case the weapons fall into the wrong hands either captured, stolen, lost, or even change of government.
I had sort of assumed this would be the case, that we wouldn't give away or sell our top-notch stuff to other countries. So it's not as bad as it could be. But it's still not good, of course.
The same was said of the Tomcats sold to Iran and became property of the Islamic Republic with the fall of the Shah.
The original 79 sold have suffered attrition, of course, over the last fifty years but current estimates are that between 25 and 40 of those 79 are still flying and deployed.
This is an aircraft that the US took out of service in 2006 and, except for some static displays that have been gutted, no longer exist in the US.
They belonged to the Afghan forces. We provided them as a security assistance weapons package/deal.
So basically, they weren't even our choppers anymore? Then why are we making such a big deal about it? WE didn't leave them, the Afghan forces that fled the country did.
The same was said of the Tomcats sold to Iran and became property of the Islamic Republic with the fall of the Shah.
The original 79 sold have suffered attrition, of course, over the last fifty years but current estimates are that between 25 and 40 of those 79 are still flying and deployed.
This is an aircraft that the US took out of service in 2006 and, except for some static displays that have been gutted, no longer exist in the US.
Yes, I was wondering about that.
A and B
A: That we left them there after all the effort we made to recover the one off the ocean floor.
B: While I don't know just how nitty gritty the statement, the word during the Shah's time in State Department circles was....."The Shah gets whatever he wants.".
The same was said of the Tomcats sold to Iran and became property of the Islamic Republic with the fall of the Shah.
The original 79 sold have suffered attrition, of course, over the last fifty years but current estimates are that between 25 and 40 of those 79 are still flying and deployed.
This is an aircraft that the US took out of service in 2006 and, except for some static displays that have been gutted, no longer exist in the US.
Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm sure the savvy Taliban will figure out how to keep the helicopters operational. Duct tape works wonders!
We never had enough troops there to successfully occupy, or get anything done. All we could do is a some raids, and leave. Provide some nice things to locals every now and then, but never any sustainable level.
Mostly the Shareholders of US Military Contractors. The Upper Echelon of the Afghan Defense Forces and the Warlords in the various regions of Afghanistan were also paid off very nicely.
So basically, they weren't even our choppers anymore? Then why are we making such a big deal about it? WE didn't leave them, the Afghan forces that fled the country did.
Congress, over the years, votes to grant countries like Afghanistan weapons. So yes, once they were procured for them and sent over to them, they were titled over to the Afghanistan forces. That does not mean that in a situation like this, with enough resources and time, we couldn't try to get them back, but the focus is on the the people right now and the weapons and aircraft will be left behind. They were provided so the Afghan Air Force would use them to maintain control. They did not. Although it sounds like some portion of them were flown out of Afghanistan by fleeing pilots.
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