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No, actually it was spot on, and pointing out the logical fallacies that plague this forum and that the left cannot even comprehend because they have not a single solitary logical brain cell within their craniums.
If you live anywhere where there are minorities, there is absolutely no way you've never witnessed racism. Maybe you ignored it because it didn't affect you...
Even way back in middle and high school, I have never been in a locker room where I couldn't go into a changing room with a curtain to change. When I go to the gym, there is a locker room with a changing room in it, again with a curtain.
I don't have any desire to change in front of anyone, other than my husband. If I needed to change at work and there wasn't an empty office, I changed in a stall in the bathroom.
There absolutely is clutching of pearls over something that really isn't happening, though it will bolster the argument of those against trans women using the same locker room or bathroom as straight (and lesbian) women if it's claimed that it happened to "me", or at least that's the belief.
I don’t care if a woman changing next to me is attracted to women. The vast majority of sexual assaults are perpetrated by men. I have little to nothing to fear from another woman. We are of similar physical strength and women are rarely sexual predators of other women.
Your small study is just that, a small random sample. Many trans woman are attracted to women. Many of them are attracted to women and consider themselves to be lesbians. Many of them call lesbians transphobes for not being attracted to them, because they are men.
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It seems like there are frequent threads here quoting mostly right wing media sources that seem to insist that we regular gals are increasingly having what should be our private spaces (bathrooms, showers, etc.) taken over by males claiming to be trans or whatever. I have never encountered anything like that ever even when I leave my rural part of Colorado for the big city. I would never ever put up with something like that. Have any of the women here personally encountered this?
You may not have encountered it yet but you will probably see it in the future with the way society is and so many being confused as what their gender is. Must be something in their Starbucks.
All I did was point out that the woman was not asked to share a shower.
Never commented on the merits of the trans person being allowed in the locker room.
You made up a whole story.
I personally think that community facilities should have facilities that are for trans and anyone else and that a facility provide 'safe spaces' --.
I worked for a municipality that had men, women and 'family' change rooms.
In the 'family' change rooms there were privacy cubicles and all showers/toilets were in private cubicles not wide oopen.
But I'm fascinated at your ability to make up stories.
The YMCA of my youth had a big shower room where all of the girls and women showered together. Not common today but getting completely naked puts one in a vulnerable state and coming out of a shower stall and seeing a naked man outside would be really disconcerting to say the least. Men are allowed in our locker rooms now so it’s not far fetched that this will be happening with greater frequency.
Just like women in prisons are being raped by their trans cellmates.
Most people love family changing rooms. No one is talking about those. The Tran movement does not nat to use those. They want full access. We’re talking about men in the women’s locker rooms.
I don’t care if a woman changing next to me is attracted to women. The vast majority of sexual assaults are perpetrated by men. I have little to nothing to fear from another woman. We are of similar physical strength and women are rarely sexual predators of other women.
Your small study is just that, a small random sample. Many trans woman are attracted to women. Many of them are attracted to women and consider themselves to be lesbians. Many of them call lesbians transphobes for not being attracted to them, because they are men.
Can you provide links to the studies that show that "many" trans women are attracted to women? I mean, since my government link is just a "small random sample". Have you got a larger sample that shows that or are you just making some strange assumptions that because a trans woman was born a male that she would be attracted to women?
Can you provide links to the studies that show that "many" trans women are attracted to women? I mean, since my government link is just a "small random sample". Have you got a larger sample that shows that or are you just making some strange assumptions that because a trans woman was born a male that she would be attracted to women?
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A 2015 survey of roughly 3,000 American trans women showed that at least 60% were attracted to women.[5]
So your 2015 survey, from Wikipedia no less, is more accurate than the NIH's study? Do you think the NIH's study asked one question "what gender are you attracted to" and came to their conclusion from the answer to that one question?
So your 2015 survey, from Wikipedia no less, is more accurate than the NIH's study? Do you think the NIH's study asked one question "what gender are you attracted to" and came to their conclusion from the answer to that one question?
Feel free to check the source. It’s referenced. 3000 random respondents seems better than 250 random responses.
I’ll invade this thread not meant for me as a man.
Neither my wife or I have any stories of the sort the OP was asking about, but then neither of us are really hung up on mixed gender nudity. Nudity for us ≠sexual anything, and it’s fairly obvious where just not wearing clothes crosses the line over to lecherous behavior. We first had that conversation while watching Starship Troopers’ shower scene, lol.
Americans are almost uniquely weird about nudity, and I think that prompts a lot of the weirdness surrounding it, including the implication that mixed gender nudity HAS to be inherently sexual.
Speaking of lesbians and trans women. The idea that they are on the same team, fighting the same cause is not based in reality. Lesbians have more in common with other women, who l like themselves, want and need safe spaces free of men. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385
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Is a lesbian transphobic if she does not want to have sex with trans women? Some lesbians say they are increasingly being pressured and coerced into accepting trans women as partners - then shunned and even threatened for speaking out. Several have spoken to the BBC, along with trans women who are concerned about the issue too.
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