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Old 11-14-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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Haha no way... please don't tell me somebody actually said this.
It was an acquaintence of mine but Trust me, I've seen It all lol. Men brag about the most basic things, I've seen men brag about

-owning a car
-graduating High school/college
- taking care of their children
-having a Job

Etc, I rarely if EVER seen the same for women
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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I try not to complain

But I have been at that stage where it seemed absolutely no woman wanted me. I also had a pillsbury doughboy face and was often told that I had the face of an ape. And yes I got the dreaded "U" word from quite a few women. It didn't matter that I was 6'0, I was still undesirable. And I've seen women going crazy over men who are 5'7" or so, because they were attractive.

I used to be such a complainer, too (offline). Even the most negative poster would have sounded like polyanna compared to me.

At some point I did lose a significant amount of weight, my face got smaller, and women suddenly seemed a little more receptive.

I'll tell you one thing, if you are used to being ugly, it is going to feel like the twilight zone if somehow you become "good looking." I personally wasn't prepared for such a change in behavior.

I did get to a point where I realized (for me) that a woman would have to constantly tell me that I am valuable where it counts for me if I am not satisfied with myself. Now I try to get to the point where I am satisfied with myself, as long as I'm not a douche bag. I work to get to the best of myself, so that I can value myself (and value others).

Another thing to consider is the area that you live in. For me, I find that big and ethnically diverse cities are the best for me.

I'm not done with my improvements. If I am diligent, I can really shine at the first of next year.
WOW! Awesome all the way. Interesting perspective - you must be super engaging in person. Single ladies out there are going to be quite lucky
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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That's why i said "more then their actual looks" I never said men dont overestimate their looks period, reading is fundamental.

Your more likely to see a man overrate the car he drives or his yearly salary then that his physical appearance.
And your more is wrong. The study I linked twice highlights this. This is nothing new. You're just not paying attention to it. And the OP is actually the perfect example for this. He has another thread noting how good looking he is, but average looking women don't give him the time. I mentioned that he may not be as good looking as he thinks and he put me on ignore for it. Just sayin'.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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It was an acquaintence of mine but Trust me, I've seen It all lol. Men brag about the most basic things, I've seen men brag about

-owning a car
-graduating High school/college
- taking care of their children
-having a Job

Etc, I rarely if EVER seen the same for women
One more that I've seen on the internet "never been to jail". Although, I think some of the above may account more so for youth.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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And your more is wrong. The study I linked twice highlights this. This is nothing new. You're just not paying attention to it. And the OP is actually the perfect example for this. He has another thread noting how good looking he is, but average looking women don't give him the time. I mentioned that he may not be as good looking as he thinks and he put me on ignore for it. Just sayin'.
Point made. End thread.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Absolutely... not only is she not that hot, but she was a b*tch about it. She wasn't even polite.

If a gorgeous woman turned me down, and she was nice about it, it would still hurt but i'd sort of expect it. That's just life. But yea, getting shot down by a mediocre-looking woman, and so rudely! Like she really wanted to crush me. Not fun. That's the kind of stuff that can make men have negative attitudes toward women.
LOLs - this is a great thread.

Gotta love the honesty in these posts. Listen, the truth is that this is more about attitude - and yes, attitude is linked to attractiveness. Sometimes (and I stress sometimes - because nasty people always leave a lasting impression, the neutrals fade into nothingness and the super nice ones stand out, too), but sometimes, people are simply bitter at life. They are disgruntled and they are going to pass it on. They may snap at you because they're in a perpetual bad mood. It may not be that they're out to get you. Their knee jerk reaction is to be nasty because people are nasty to them or their day just doesn't go their way. They are skeptical, they've been burned once too many times and they aren't thinking to hard about being nice or mean - this is just the way they are. They don't know how to be any other way.

The super attractive women you reference may in fact just have a more positive outlook because people are nicer to them. They just may have a sunnier disposition. They aren't mad at the world. People are nice and pleasant to them, so why would they snap at you? They aren't out to prove anything to the world - they mirror the reaction others have toward them.

I've noticed this in daily interactions, traveling abroad, with friends, etc., etc. Of course, this is a generalization, there are always exceptions.

The same phenomenon occurs with children. The bullies in the school yard aren't the funny, well adjusted kids. They're often the ones pushed around at home, mad at the world.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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And your more is wrong. The study I linked twice highlights this. This is nothing new. You're just not paying attention to it. And the OP is actually the perfect example for this. He has another thread noting how good looking he is, but average looking women don't give him the time. I mentioned that he may not be as good looking as he thinks and he put me on ignore for it. Just sayin'.
Link me to the post that says men overrate their looks more then their economic status. I don't see it in there, all I see is that unnactractive men and men in general overrate their looks, and Im like duh I never denied that lol. You don't need a study to figure that out

I don't see how I'm "wrong" but ok.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Whatever. I'm not unrealistic. In fact, I'm too hard on myself. I think I'm only a 9 when in reality - I'm an 11.

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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I have a chance to make a terrible, overused DBZ joke here but I think I'll pass.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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I have a chance to make a terrible, overused DBZ joke here but I think I'll pass.
I'm not afraid to do it. Overused or not.


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