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Old 06-25-2016, 06:31 AM
 
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It was Cain..
In other words....Man...
God supposedly created human nature, so it is to blame for everything!
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Old 06-25-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: US
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God supposedly created human nature, so it is to blame for everything!
He created man with a free will to make choices...
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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It was Cain..
In other words....Man...
Oh, so God didn't know that was going to happen?

Indeed, God didn't make man specifically to have that happen?

God can be surprised? And He's not in control?

This is going to come as a BIG surprise to at least three major religions that I know of.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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He created man with a free will to make choices...
Again. So you're saying God can be surprised? God doesn't know what's going to happen? In other words, God isn't omniscient?

This is really interesting. As I said above, it's quite the game-changer. It also kind of negates large parts of what the Bible's stories are founded on.

Guess you guys need a new book?
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always badmouthed, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.
Relax, there ain't no such entity as Satan.

This from the highest Angel of them all... and he should know.

"The book that you read is a snare and a lie, for there are no angels who have become devils as the author of that book declares. Never were there any angels who through ambition or any other reason revolted against the power of government of God, and thereby lost their estate as angels. Never was there any Lucifer, and never were there any angels who were thrown from the battlements of heaven into hell, as it has been written and as I told you before, there are no devils and no Satan, considered as real persons and fallen angels."'

Truth for all people - There are no devils and no satan

And for pity sakes, don't believe all the negative writings about God. They're a fabrication and without any foundation in fact and truth. In other words... made up.
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Relax, there ain't no such entity as Satan.

This from the highest Angel of them all... and he should know.

"The book that you read is a snare and a lie, for there are no angels who have become devils as the author of that book declares. Never were there any angels who through ambition or any other reason revolted against the power of government of God, and thereby lost their estate as angels. Never was there any Lucifer, and never were there any angels who were thrown from the battlements of heaven into hell, as it has been written and as I told you before, there are no devils and no Satan, considered as real persons and fallen angels."'

Truth for all people - There are no devils and no satan

And for pity sakes, don't believe all the negative writings about God. They're a fabrication and without any foundation in fact and truth. In other words... made up.
That link is a crock too...
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Oh, so God didn't know that was going to happen?

Indeed, God didn't make man specifically to have that happen?

God can be surprised? And He's not in control?

This is going to come as a BIG surprise to at least three major religions that I know of.
Well, here's the surprise...It all had to happen...
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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That link is a crock too...
Some day... after you're in the next world... you'll think otherwise.
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always badmouthed, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.


sATAN is a baddie because he caused all of the pain and suffering in the universe.....read the Book of Genesis about the fall of Mankind.
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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sATAN is a baddie because he caused all of the pain and suffering in the universe.....read the Book of Genesis about the fall of Mankind.
No he didn't! That would be Yahweh the Hebrew war god that did that.
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