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Old 01-30-2019, 03:48 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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there is a diference between atheism and atheist.

there are atheist that consciously render valid interpretations under "spring board" and there for are taboo to talk about. There are atheist with an axe to grind and they take it out on everybody else.

The leer jet part ... because people feel that the rich take advantage of doesn't give them the right to take more from others. Some liberals are so mad at the rich they will do anything to strike back at them. Including degrading our health care system to do it.

the rich are screwing us ... that doesn't give the poor the right to screw us too.

fundy theist are dangerous ... and so anti-religious socialism.

Its so true, your only recourse to hide that fact by not addressing more valid claims.
As always, I get the feeling that you have a seed of a point, but it gets kicked off line. The learjet gripe is not about the rich so much, but those who use religion to screw the dupes out of their money. I admit that steams me. Why doesn't it steam you? As to your skewed view of what you call Socialism, that is best left to the politics forum. Your bias doesn't make us Fundies, far less in the wrong.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:10 AM
 
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As always, I get the feeling that you have a seed of a point, but it gets kicked off line. The learjet gripe is not about the rich so much, but those who use religion to screw the dupes out of their money. I admit that steams me. Why doesn't it steam you? As to your skewed view of what you call Socialism, that is best left to the politics forum. Your bias doesn't make us Fundies, far less in the wrong.
trans, its steams the no-bejesus out of me. It doesn't give me the right to screw everybody around me to get even. you cover up socialism with anti-religion. I am sorry, you are just as guilty as me.

I don't believe in god. That doesn't give me the right to force morals on others based on "I think your dead wrong about god". Because they are dead wrong about god doesn't mean they are dead wrong about personal accountability and natural consequences.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:14 AM
 
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I can't find the thread ... so I am posting here.

as you all know, I base my choices on observation and how things work.

based on the number people that said I misrepresented fish head I must be at fault for the disconnect.

i was wrong and will try to clean it up as I go along.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:14 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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trans, its steams the no-bejesus out of me. It doesn't give me the right to screw everybody around me to get even. you cover up socialism with anti-religion. I am sorry, you are just as guilty as me.

I don't believe in god. That doesn't give me the right to force morals on others based on "I think your dead wrong about god". Because they are dead wrong about god doesn't mean they are dead wrong about personal accountability and natural consequences.
I respect your right to disapprove of us. I also respect my right to think that our aims and agenda are not only just but urgently needed.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:23 AM
 
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I respect your right to disapprove of us. I also respect my right to think that our aims and agenda are not only just but urgently needed.
this doesn't address the facts, it addresses a person opinion. as valid, or invalid, as any theist basing their claim on personal need not based on the reality of the situation.

I can't respect anti-religion, of the flavor you seem to present, anymore than I can respect JW's rights to express there beliefs.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:36 AM
 
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So you think the inquisition was harmless?
The Salem witch trials?
Jim Jones?
I'm sorry that you can pretend to ignore the atheist atrocities of the 20th century. Which make those look like Disneyland in comparison.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:39 AM
 
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No they were not harmless. we are saying that we address the people involved and don't lump it all under "religions fault". its people's fault and religion was the tool.
We can't speak to dead ears. People who would deliberately deny the truth right in front of their faces.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:48 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle View Post
there is a diference between atheism and atheist.

there are atheist that consciously render valid interpretations under "spring board" and there for are taboo to talk about. There are atheist with an axe to grind and they take it out on everybody else.

The leer jet part ... because people feel that the rich take advantage of doesn't give them the right to take more from others. Some liberals are so mad at the rich they will do anything to strike back at them. Including degrading our health care system to do it.

the rich are screwing us ... that doesn't give the poor the right to screw us too.

fundy theist are dangerous ... and so anti-religious socialism.

Its so true, your only recourse to hide that fact by not addressing more valid claims.
Does anybody have an Arach to English translator? None of this post makes any sense.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:52 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I'm sorry that you can pretend to ignore the atheist atrocities of the 20th century. Which make those look like Disneyland in comparison.
What atrocities were committed in the name of Atheism? Remember, you said atheist atrocities, not atrocities that were simply absent religion. What are the atrocities attributed to the cause of atheism?
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:58 AM
 
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We can't speak to dead ears. People who would deliberately deny the truth right in front of their faces.
no ozzy, its different than that. Some sects of atheism have consciously chosen a route to hide, minimize anything that can be used as a "springboard" to what they deems spiritual.

The notion that the "universe continuum computed you" is an excellent example of what they are doing. Its a very valid interpretation, that is being studied everywhere by the heavy weights. In fact, its one line of reasoning that has made correct predictions every time., it is deemed "not liget" and "whoo whoo wandy" by people that don't even understand the statement.

to jargon it a tad that is.

each of us have to decide. as we look around at the different society's, what one do we want to be like? there are many good enough ones. But there are clearly two that are dangerous to us regulars.

"QM" has tot failed yet to make a prediction. so do I base my statements on that set of mechanism's or do I base my statements on"bad religion"?
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