Irrefutable Proof God Cares NOTHING about Christianity (sin, Old Testament, spiritual)

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by Jesus'Truth

If you want to know God's Truth and not some denomination's truth, then you can know for yourself.

You have to search for God and His Truth.

If you get Jesus' teachings in the New Testament, and do what he says to do, then he will come to make his home in your heart and he will be your Teacher.

There are some things Jesus will give you immediate understanding about and some things you will have to study, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you, and more.

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I suppose that people like David Koresh and Jim Jones probably started out thinking that same thing.

Or the pastor at the corner church who leads his congregation to serve God and others.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83

Or the pastor at the corner church who leads his congregation to serve God and others.

I'm not quite clear what you position is here.

Do you feel that a 'certifying' church body is not a good thing?

Is it really okay for anyone to just proclaim himself as being 'the one' who has all the answers?

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I'm not quite clear what you position is here.

Do you feel that a 'certifying' church body is not a good thing?

Is it really okay for anyone to just proclaim himself as being 'the one' who has all the answers?

It’s ok to proclaim the Bible is our authority.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83

It’s ok to proclaim the Bible is our authority.

But is it "okay" to preach and attempt to lead? After all, there's a sucker born every minute.

See, here's the way it can work:

I could say right now -- 'Last night I had a vision. That christianity is wrong. That it should be outlawed. Islam is the answer! Now follow me and be saved'.

And that scenario does happen all the time, just fill in one's favorite belief.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83

It’s ok to proclaim the Bible is our authority.

A Christian SHOULD proclaim that Jesus is their authority, NOT the Bible.

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

But is it "okay" to preach and attempt to lead? After all, there's a sucker born every minute.

See, here's the way it can work:

I could say right now -- 'Last night I had a vision. That christianity is wrong. That it should be outlawed. Islam is the answer! Now follow me and be saved'.

And that scenario does happen all the time, just fill in one's favorite belief.

Yes, you could say that, but I would have to determine is your are trustworthy and if your vision sounds valid.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83

Yes, you could say that, but I would have to determine is your are trustworthy and if your vision sounds valid.

ANd you think you can really do that here on a forum?

And what of the Koresh and Jonestown followers. They trusted their leaders and their visions.

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

ANd you think you can really do that here on a forum?

And what of the Koresh and Jonestown followers. They trusted their leaders and their visions.

No.

They were suckers. I know my pastor personally and have observed his life for the last 30 years. I trust him and what he says.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83

No.

They were suckers. I know my pastor personally and have observed his life for the last 30 years. I trust him and what he says.

That's a bit different. He is a part of no denomination?

[Jesus'Truth]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I suppose that people like David Koresh and Jim Jones probably started out thinking that same thing.

No such evil from God.