How safe is Englewood?? (Peoria, Normal: crime rates, murder rate, area)

[Manigault]

Originally Posted by isjeepin

If you are black and comfortable with a lot of crime, the southside is for you.

Like Mayor Daley? I could name many more folks who don't fit your short-sighted definition.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Manigault

Like Mayor Daley? I could name many more folks who don't fit your short-sighted definition.

I dont really think the area around Roosevelt and Indiana that he lives in is much like 99.9% of the South Side at all.

[skyeINIL]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

I dont really think the area around Roosevelt and Indiana that he lives in is much like 99.9% of the South Side at all.

Yeah, and you are completely knowledgeable and unbiased about "99.9% of the South Side".

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by skyeINIL

Yeah, and you are completely knowledgeable and unbiased about "99.9% of the South Side".

I do not claim I am completely knowledgeable about the South Side, but I am certainly unbiased about it.

I was not defending the guy Manigault responded to. I was just pointing out a fact. I was not trying to do it in a negative way at all.

[Manigault]

Look at it this way: If Hyde Park, Kenwood, South Shore, Beverly and Morgan Park have collectively about 50% white folks (they do) and if they add up to about 100,000 folks at least (at least); then at the very least you gotta think there is a whole passel of white folks taking off their shoes at night on the south side. Crime or no crime.

[Humboldt1]

Areas on the southside that are at least 50% white are generally okay. Is there a single area that is 75% or more black that is nice? I know many of the west side and south side neighborhoods with the most problems are 90% or more black. Little Village certainly has crime, but it also has commerce, something lacking in many south and westside black majority (over 75%) neighborhoods. Englewood, West Garfield Park, North Lawndale, Austin, and East Garfield Park (though the east side is slowly getting better), southern half of Humboldt Park are all examples of this where the best in the way of grocery stores you get in some local corner store or Aldi's. I do believe North Lawndale has either a Jewel or a Dominicks, but this is rare in these type of neighborhoods.

I have also noted that black majority areas tend to have declining populations as the areas such as East Garfield Park, West Garfield Park, North Lawndale, Austin, though I think Austin's population has declined less (decent housing stock in a challenging area). The riots of 1968 decimated many these areas, with many buildings being burnt down and over the past 30-40 years many buildings have been abandoned or torn down since then.

[ajolotl]

Originally Posted by Humboldt1

Areas on the southside that are at least 50% white are generally okay. Is there a single area that is 75% or more black that is nice?

No, otherwise more white people would live there and it would no longer be almost all black. But there are some where one can see potential, particularly in the residential areas, and would be willing to take a chance given their location and a good price. By the way many people would say that Chatham and Pill Hill and West Chesterfield are such neighborhoods, but to me the commercial districts look mostly like third-world countries (I'm from one so I can say this), though many residential blocks do look pretty good. I would not call them overall nice though, just ok.

[hahafunny]

doing a school project on chicago.....
got any details about Englewood and McKinly Park?
thanks

[allymac7896]

What about the area near the northeast corner of Ogden Park? Is that considered the "nice and quiet" area?

[Drover]

Originally Posted by allymac7896

What about the area near the northeast corner of Ogden Park? Is that considered the "nice and quiet" area?

Not really, no.