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Sciota, you said "you are reproached among preterists too". is that over eschatology ?
By the way I know we lock horns but i still respect you .
Over the creation account, and much of Genesis.
That's cool......you just report what you think....that's why I like talking to you...so right back at you with respect.
It wasn't only that generation that killed the saints and the prophets. The Protestant church believed, until recently, that Rome was the whor*. Isn't that kinda why we got the Reformation? Here's a good little study on the matter: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/whor*_of_Babylon (http://www.wordiq.com/definition/*****_of_Babylon - broken link)
The whor* is a religious spirit that lives in the religious system which binds itself to the world and uses it's weapons, not God, to protect itself, just like the Jews did, and it has always killed those who truly want peace. It cries peace, peace, when it does nothing other than to promote chaos through it's actions, greed and deceptions. It calls peacemakers hippies, idiots, and sissies, though Christ said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." The system wants brawny beastly characters. It wants to kick ass. So the people sit in the pews talking about peace, love and joy, but they are connected to the biggest baddest machine ever to hit this planet.
It's all about the power, in the end; who's got it and who doesn't. The system uses pawns wherever they can get them from.
Using the doctrine of the eternal damnation of your soul from a god who "loves" is a good game. The Muslims use it, and the Christians use it. Can we say the gods of war?
It was never about a wooden kingdom....always remember that dear friend....lo here or there, but within all of us.
They persecute everyone who does not believe that God will have all people to be saved, by threatening them with promises of eventual salvation and with threats that God will inevitably heal them of their sin and unbelief !???!
How dare Biblical Christian Universalists tell people that they all will be saved!
How dare they threaten the world with promises of eventual absolute peace and harmony throughout all creation for every being who will ever be created by God !???!
How dare they teach that God loves all people and will not quit on any of us and will go to whatever lengths necessary to reconcile us all to himself so that we will be reconciled with him thereby one day ?!!!?
Its diabolical I tell you !!!!
Straight from the literal fiery hell that doesn't even really exist !!!!
Interested readers will choose whichever they think the Bible teaches.
John 3:16 pre-empts belief.
1 John 2 does the same....and so do all of the others.
The context is those in covenant are saved.
Isaiah 28 - To Israel (cf. Romans 2,11, 1 Cor 15)
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Salvation out of the lake of fire which is the 2nd death
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Originally Posted by sciotamicks
John 3:16 pre-empts belief.
1 John 2 does the same....and so do all of the others.
The context is those in covenant are saved.
Isaiah 28 - To Israel (cf. Romans 2,11, 1 Cor 15)
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
The above.....is the Kosmos.
Sooner or later there will be no more death or suffering for anyone.
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What god's love will actually achieve
