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Sorry, in my mind I did answer it but I realize some further explanation would be helpful. You are talking about "going to heaven". I can't think of a place in the scripture that uses that terminology. It speaks of entering the kingdom of heaven/God, and it further defines the the kingdom of God as righteousness, peace and joy in the Spirit. In other words, aisi, entering the kingdom of heaven is the state of mind we inhabit when we are experiencing Christ in us. Christ IS love. Therefore, when we are experiencing love, we have entered the kingdom of heaven.
So if I reject Christ and Love Allah will I go to heaven?
See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.
In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?
He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.
My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better.
But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.
oh and this one....
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
I know I know you don't believe. You have your own interpretation for those verses.
Well, apparently you have your own interpretation, too, because none of them says you're "going to heaven". What I'm wondering is what about this do you disagree with?:
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It speaks of entering the kingdom of heaven/God, and it further defines the the kingdom of God as righteousness, peace and joy in the Spirit. In other words, aisi, entering the kingdom of heaven is the state of mind we inhabit when we are experiencing Christ in us. Christ IS love. Therefore, when we are experiencing love, we have entered the kingdom of heaven.
So if I reject Christ and Love Allah will I go to heaven?
Its either yes or no.
As I said: Since Christ IS love, the only way to reject Christ is by rejecting love.
And: aisi, entering the kingdom of heaven is the state of mind we inhabit when we are experiencing Christ in us. Christ IS love. Therefore, when we are experiencing love, we have entered the kingdom of heaven.
Put the two together and you will see that my answer is that if you are rejecting LOVE (Christ) then you are not experiencing the righteousness, joy and peace of the kingdom of heaven.
It's irrelevant what it means to me. You're the one making the statement...so I'm asking you for clarification.
No, it's totally relevant want you think because YOU are the one that said "Christ who is love lives in us and that is what saves us" sounds like legalism to you. I have no idea why you would think that, so you're the one that would need to explain how you come up with that in order for me to understand where you're coming from.
As I said: Since Christ IS love, the only way to reject Christ is by rejecting love.
And: aisi, entering the kingdom of heaven is the state of mind we inhabit when we are experiencing Christ in us. Christ IS love. Therefore, when we are experiencing love, we have entered the kingdom of heaven.
Put the two together and you will see that my answer is that if you are rejecting LOVE (Christ) then you are not experiencing the righteousness, joy and peace of the kingdom of heaven.
ok fair enough... care to explain the verse below? The entire forum eagerly awaits your response.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
ok fair enough... care to explain the verse below? The entire forum eagerly awaits your response.
To be honest, that comment (which comes off as snarkiness) doesn't give me a lot of incentive to continue this conversation with you.
If you'll give a genuine response to this post first, perhaps we can continue.
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What I'm wondering is what about this do you disagree with?:
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It speaks of entering the kingdom of heaven/God, and it further defines the the kingdom of God as righteousness, peace and joy in the Spirit. In other words, aisi, entering the kingdom of heaven is the state of mind we inhabit when we are experiencing Christ in us. Christ IS love. Therefore, when we are experiencing love, we have entered the kingdom of heaven.
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What I'm wondering is what about this do you disagree with?:
Is that what it means to you?
