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I believe that scripture was a part of the laws and regulations given to a specific people during a specific period of time. It has not been introduced into the laws and regulations for us today. That's my view!
I also pointed out that I find no ambiguity in the scripture for those it was given to. It is very clear.
lol. so you reserve the right to choose what was for "then", and what is for "now".. how convenient.
lol. so you reserve the right to choose what was for "then", and what is for "now".. how convenient.
It's not a difficult thing to understand if you want to. Breaking a law is immoral. Not all unlawful actions are immoral in absence of a law while conversely, some unlawful actions are objectively immoral regardless of a law against it. Eating shellfish is only immoral if there is a law against it. Murder is immoral, even in the absence of a law against it. It all has to do with God's objective morality which operates on a higher plane than society.
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I believe that scripture was a part of the laws and regulations given to a specific people during a specific period of time. It has not been introduced into the laws and regulations for us today. That's my view!
I also pointed out that I find no ambiguity in the scripture for those it was given to. It is very clear.
So in that case, if that law is given to a specific people at a specific time, why would any part of it be applicable to homosexuals today?
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It's not a difficult thing to understand if you want to. Breaking a law is immoral. Not all unlawful actions are immoral in absence of a law while conversely, some unlawful actions are objectively immoral regardless of a law against it. Eating shellfish is only immoral if there is a law against it. Murder is immoral, even in the absence of a law against it. It all has to do with God's objective morality which operates on a higher plane than society.
So were is the definitive guidance on what is "god's objective morality"? Why is homosexuality and murder wrong, and eating shellfish not? Or mixing fabrics?
So were is the definitive guidance on what is "god's objective morality"? Why is homosexuality and murder wrong, and eating shellfish not? Or mixing fabrics?
1. God didn't reduce a city to ashes because people were eating shrimp. He did for homosexuality.
2. The law references other nations engaging in homosexuality and how it destroyed their land. That alone shows that the law involves a universal sin applicable to everyone, not just the Israelites.
OMG, you are correct. Left-handed people should be oppressed. It's not natural. People are "naturally" right-handed. Left-handers must be the spawn of Satan! Next thing they will be trying to take over our government. I should have a right to deny selling cookies and cakes to left-handers. They shouldn't be allowed to marry! They shouldn't be allowed in our churches. We should give them a single mast salute with our God-given RIGHT hand!!
With that logic, someone who is born with a brain that is geared towards kleptomania should never be held accountable for their actions. They can't help it! There is NO choice involved when they go out and steal, right?
So were is the definitive guidance on what is "god's objective morality"? Why is homosexuality and murder wrong, and eating shellfish not? Or mixing fabrics?
The Scripture, as a whole, shows us God's nature and also His morality. However, God's objective morality is hard-wired into His creation, which is why murder is immoral, even if everyone in the world thought it wasn't.
Homosexual acts are sexual perversions, because they are committed outside of the covenant of marriage, which is impossible to enter as the same sex, and also because it runs contrary to God's perfect plan, which is for a male and a female to be together sexually. This can be found throughout the Scripture, which I believe is God's testimony preserved for all men.
Once again I would caution you, though, just because homosexual acts are a sin against God, doesn't mean it is any better or worse than any other sin, sexual or otherwise. However, this does not negate the fact that as Christians, we should refrain from sinful actions and ask God's forgiveness and repent when we stumble.
This means regardless of the sinful nature of all men, we should be kind, loving, gentle, longsuffering and be a blessing to all people, so that the love of Christ might reflect through us and lead the lost to salvation.
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1. God didn't reduce a city to ashes because people were eating shrimp. He did for homosexuality.
2. The law references other nations engaging in homosexuality and how it destroyed their land. That alone shows that the law involves a universal sin applicable to everyone, not just the Israelites.
You really don't understand the Sodom and Gomorrah story well do you? All your doing is reiterating the misinterpretations of some fire and brimstone zealots. Many posts have been made on the real reason. Why are they not talked about? Why only homosexuality
Inhospitality
Seeking sex with angels, fornication, and going after "strange flesh"
Pride, wealth, laziness, and ignoring the needs of the poor
1. God didn't reduce a city to ashes because people were eating shrimp. He did for homosexuality.
2. The law references other nations engaging in homosexuality and how it destroyed their land. That alone shows that the law involves a universal sin applicable to everyone, not just the Israelites.
I don't ever recall seeing a "straight pride" parade.
I guess you have never been to Mardi Gras.
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