Why would the fundamental christian god want to burn the lost eternally ? (Bible, faith)
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So you are saying the lost deserve to burn eternally even though the Lord does not treat them has their sins deserve or repay them according to their iniquities ?.
Jesus died for the sins of all- past, present, future. So no-one can claim to have acted with impunity, and to be God rather than Jesus. However, only those who trust in Jesus' sacrifice will actually receive forgiveness, because to fail to trust is either to fail to accept that one has sinned, or to accept that one has sinned but say that one's sin is acceptable. And to say that is to commit the unforgivable sin, and to make oneself answerable for one's sins. Which of course is fatal, and most will not actually be saved.
No. Jesus died because of barbaric people. He did not die for anyone. Our sins are our own and to say that by accepting this we will be made perfect is wrong. Jesus not once said He will die for us. Not once.
If you do something wrong, you are the one holding the guilt. If you do not feel guilt after commiting a sin, it is because of your soul condition and the darkness it holds. Jesus gave life, not death. Jesus showed the world God through living. It is not through His death that He can show you God. Although He does channel messages to great mediums on how to live life. So, in a way, He is showing the way to God through death. But no one is listening because, according to bible readers, channeling is evil.
So you are saying the lost deserve to burn eternally even though the Lord does not treat them has their sins deserve or repay them according to their iniquities ?.
If that is what she is saying, then it would mean that God is unmerciful. Everyone knows that God is merciful so the whole burning in hell thing is just a crock.
If God is merciful, He would forgive everything no matter what we did through our own repentence and forgiveness of self and each other. The only way we would live in eternal hell (darkness) is if we remained unforgiving and that has nothing to do with GOd but ourselves. So, we would basically keep ourselves there.
So you are saying the lost deserve to burn eternally even though the Lord does not treat them has their sins deserve or repay them according to their iniquities ?.
'As a father is kind to his children, so the Lord is kind to those who honor him.' Ps 103:13 GNB
Originally Posted by Eusebius O.K. we agree that Jesus died for the sins of all- past, present and future.
But then you say: "only those who trust in Jesus' sacrifice will actually receive forgiveness." The only way anyone can believe is if God gives them faith to believe in the first place. So the responsibility rests on God, not man.
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Which he fulfilled, by dying on the cross. Though that was hardly a responsibility.
You don't quite understand what I said. The only way a person can believe is if God gives them the faith.
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:Eusebius wrote
Fair is fair. If all mankind can be made sinners due to what Adam did then all mankind can be made righteous due to what Christ did.
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Can be, yes. But nobody is forced to accept righteousness. Most people detest it. Everyone gets what they really want.
Really? Everyone gets what they really want? Did you really want to be condemned the second you were born due to what Adam did? (Romans 5:18)
Did you really want to be made a sinner the second you were born? (Romans 5:19)
The scriptures certainly do without a shadow of a doubt , strange that you don't believe that He is far more wonderful than we could ever think or imagine
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Maybe someone who reads it will have the eyes of their understanding opened and understand the issue.
