Will houston surpass chicago as the third largest city (live, best, better)

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Phil P

I just don't think people will see Houston as so attractive if it gets hit with a big hurricane like Galveston did in 1900.

Houston did get hit by that very same Hurricane and came through it just fine, but trying to use a Hurricane that happened over 100 years ago is like asking if Chicago is still on fire , its just ridicules.

Originally Posted by westhou

It's funny how people like to say Houston isn't coastal when people want to dump on it for not being close to beaches but as soon as you can use it to say it will be destroyed by a hurricane you act like Downtown Houston sits right there on the beach.

lol so true Houston haters will use whatever argument is expedient at the time

[diet1]

Houston will definitely surpass Chicago in population in the very near future. Houston has not annexed anything for decades, and probably never will.

The stats below clearly show who is the winner is and who is the obvious loser.

1Q15 survey of the Houston new home market showed continued strong performance, with builders starting construction on 6,655 new homes.
1Q15 survey of the Chicago new home market showed that with Rising Costs & Regulation there were only 966 new homes sold.

As of July 1, 2014, Houston grew by 35,752 residents from 2013-2014 an increase of 1.6 percent.
As of July 1, 2014, Chicago grew by just 82 residents from 2013-2014, an increase of just .003 percent.



Chicago's Population Grew by Only 82 Residents in One Year: Census | NBC Chicago
Metrostudy | Market Profile | Primary and secondary housing market information, research and consulting.

[checkup]

Houston will surpass Chicago, but not in this decade. The current gap is still too large and the oil crisis is going to slow down development and growth in Houston for the next 2-3 years

[Phil P]

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

Houston did get hit by that very same Hurricane and came through it just fine, but trying to use a Hurricane that happened over 100 years ago is like asking if Chicago is still on fire , its just ridicules.



lol so true Houston haters will use whatever argument is expedient at the time

Lol. That's why Houston is listed as one of the most at risk metros in the U.S. And it's #1 for flood risk as well.

It's just built in a crappy location, there's no way around it.

[Republic of Michigan]

Houston is 599 square miles, and Chicago is 234 miles. Chicago just needs to annex 365 more miles and then the clock can start over again in comparing the two.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Lol. That's why Houston is listed as one of the most at risk metros in the U.S. And it's #1 for flood risk as well.

It's just built in a crappy location, there's no way around it.

Houston is like 50 miles inland... Miami on the other hand...

[NowInWI]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

Houston is like 50 miles inland... Miami on the other hand...

I recall the recent flooding in Houston.....pretty devastating.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Lol. That's why Houston is listed as one of the most at risk metros in the U.S. And it's #1 for flood risk as well.

It's just built in a crappy location, there's no way around it.

Really ? and which are these other metros on this list of yours, a link would be nice....Not saying you are making this up just saying I bet some of the other metros on this list are pretty good places to live as well.

[steeps]

Originally Posted by diet1

Houston will definitely surpass Chicago in population in the very near future. Houston has not annexed anything for decades, and probably never will.

The stats below clearly show who is the winner is and who is the obvious loser.

1Q15 survey of the Houston new home market showed continued strong performance, with builders starting construction on 6,655 new homes.
1Q15 survey of the Chicago new home market showed that with Rising Costs & Regulation there were only 966 new homes sold.

As of July 1, 2014, Houston grew by 35,752 residents from 2013-2014 an increase of 1.6 percent.
As of July 1, 2014, Chicago grew by just 82 residents from 2013-2014, an increase of just .003 percent.

Chicago's Population Grew by Only 82 Residents in One Year: Census | NBC Chicago
Metrostudy | Market Profile | Primary and secondary housing market information, research and consulting.

You do understand CHICAGO IS A MATURE CITY? Meaning it has grown in land as large as it will be and virtually all its land WAS ALREADY UTILIZED.

Chicago's last growth in land easy in the 50s. With homes built on its Urban street grid on the last available land into the Mid-60s. TODAY it is in RESTORATION IN GENTRIFICATION of some of its oldest neighborhoods near Downtown. Young Urban Professionals love. THEY RESTORE THE 100+year old homes ALREADY THERE. Where some homes were lost over the decades. THEN SOME NEW INFILL IS BUILT.

If you do not know??? No major city in the MIDWEST is growing in sunbelt level cities. Most is suburban in its major Metros. But Downtown Chicago has been BOOMING IN RESIDENTS LIVING THERE. Most NEW CONSTRUCTION is HIGH-END Skyscraper living to some NEW High-End Townhouses in areas around it.

THE REST DOWNTOWN is RESTORATION AND CONVERSIONS In established buildings. From LOFTS in old industrial ones to older skyscrapers converted to condos or even Hotels.

All this is not counted as NEW HOUSING. Someone surly will correct me if wrong? Forty years ago there was few living Downtown. It was offices and retail. The Gold Coast was building Skyscraper living. But it is still not considered part of Downtown. To me it should be.

To verify this fact of DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. It went from very little actually living Downtown to 133,426 in 2000. Then to 181,717 in 2010. This by the US census which uses a standard of a 2-mile radius from a city's City Hall. Incidentally the Park Grant/Millennium Park in the Picture on this sight below. Is in that 2 miles. Actually into the harbor.
Chicago had largest downtown population growth from 2000 to 2010
The numbers do not include the Gold Coast either.

Sadly Northern cities LOST housing in neighborhoods that endured RACIAL STRIFE in the 60s. The Southside. Has had the City in the last 20years. Clear out the worst of the blight. Leaving LOTS even whole BLOCKS. Returned back to PRAIRIE AGAIN. EXAMPLES in current streetview360°.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8827...7i13312!8i6656

Lovely old Victorian survivor. This home would be Multi-millions in a better neighborhood.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8828...7i13312!8i6656

Same neighborhood some NEW HOUSING INFILL ON RIGHT, LOVELY OLD ORIGINAL VICTORIANS ON RIGHT.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8818...7i13312!8i6656

Sadly so much great housing was lost on parts of the Southside. HERE SOME STILL VIBRANT GREYSTONE HOMES ON BLOCKS. LIKE THESE A LOT.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8525...7i13312!8i6656

NORTHSIDE VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS

This is a EXAMPLE OF DENSE OLD HOUSING NORTH OF DOWNTOWN HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER. Actually this block right BY DEPAUL UNIVERSITY.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9227...7i13312!8i6656

This is a dense old block of Wrigleyville. By the Chicago Cubs Wrigley Field Ballpark.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9481...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9415...7i13312!8i6656

Example of Chicago's CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW BELT HOUSING. Built 1910-1940. 1/3 OF THE CITY TODAY. NOTICE HOW UNIFORM THE CITY ZONED FOR AND REQUIRED SET-BACKS OF BUILDER.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9068...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9524...7i13312!8i6656

Their Alleyways have the ugly Power lines
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9519...7i13312!8i6656

Chicago's LAST Growth examples. Early 60s homes
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9715...7i13312!8i6656

THIS IS NO HAS BEEN CITY!!!

I THINK YOU GET A CLUE TO THE STATURE OF DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. MOSTLY THE NEAR NORTH PART OF DOWNTOWN HERE AND RESIDENTIAL. BUSINESS LOOP PART OF DOWNTOWN IN THE DISTANCE RIGHT. GOLD COAST BEGINS AT OAK ST BEACH. IN CENTER. BUILDINGS ON RIGHT PART OF THE GOLD COAST NOT PART OF DOWNTOWN.
6YR OLD PICTURE



THE LOOP BUSINESS DOWNTOWN AND RESIDENTIAL BY SOLDIER FIELD AND ON RIGHT SIDE OF PICIURE.

[NigerianNightmare]

The floods where devastating but less than 1% of all houses in the city were damaged by water in fact I think less than 1% of houses in the metro were damaged by water, Houston looks almost the exact same before and after the water rose it's not like all of housing was under water, just certain parts and even then it damaged a maybe slightly more than 2500 homes, yes it's devastating but the worst flood Houston has had in 20 something years besides maybe hurricanes, more people died in car accidents and murders in the couple days before the flood than people died due to the flood.