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Old 10-06-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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First off, Ill say that I never thought Houston was more diverse then Miami. Ive had it out with a few of them myself.

Though I agree with much of what you said at the beginning of your post, I think the later half of your post is way off.

Youre removing the MSA's foreign born community and then youre basing everything off percentages and making statements like "Atlanta has more Asians than Houston or Dallas". No, Atlanta does not have more Asians than Houston or Dallas, Atlanta has a higher percentage of its foreign born community that is Asian than Houston or Dallas. Of course Dallas and Houston are going to have less percentage of their foreign born community that is Asian because Dallas and Houston have many many more Latin Americans. If you really what to discover what the areas have, look at it numerically, dont remove the cities foreign born population and break that portion into percentages. Thats wrong on so many levels.

Atlanta does have the largest Korean community in the South. However its not outlandishly larger than DFW's. Houston doesnt have much of a Korean community so its quite a bit larger than theirs. Houston on the other hand has the 3rd largest Vietnamese community in the US. Dallas has the 4th largest Vietnamese community in the US. Both Houston and Dallas' Vietnamese community are much larger than Atlanta's Korean Community.

By 2007 estimates, here is the Foreign Born Asian community for the 3:

Houston 244,274
Dallas 228,209
Atlanta 176,671

So if you want to break these down into percentages (rounded off):

Houston: 4.2%
Dallas: 3.7%
Atlanta: 3.2%

So no matter how you slice it, Atlanta has few Asians than the other two MSA's in question.

Atlanta is the largest for Europeans and Africans.
Could you please post your a link to your info so I can see.I listed every link so you could see what I was talking about.My links came directly from the Census Bureau,so I do not know where yours came from.The links I provided say other wise.What are the percentages of that you posted and what are the numbers?

BTW;Also of course because Houston is bigger,in MOST occasions every segment of its population in terms of s raw totals will have more.You cannot tell me that you cannot use percentages to gage how diverse the city is.Like I said to some one else before,SAn Francisco has more gay people than any other city in the U.S. as most would agree,right?NO,WRONG.Technically NYC has more gay people,which is right?BOTH.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Those just show the foreign born population in each city.
Thats what she said is the best way to show diversity.Is that not what you said also?
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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Is this an Atlanta vs Houston which is diverse argument again?
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Is this an Atlanta vs Houston which is diverse argument again?
I didn't bring it up,but i gotta say how I feel.Sorry.LOL
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Could you please post your a link to your info so I can see.I listed every link so you could see what I was talking about.My links came directly from the Census Bureau,so I do not know where yours came from.The links I provided say other wise.What are the percentages of that you posted and what are the numbers?

BTW;Also of course because Houston is bigger,in MOST occasions every segment of its population in terms of s raw totals will have more.You cannot tell me that you cannot use percentages to gage how diverse the city is.Like I said to some one else before,SAn Francisco has more gay people than any other city in the U.S. as most would agree,right?NO,WRONG.Technically NYC has more gay people,which is right?BOTH.
18Montclair posts this data all the time. Here is what he posted from a previous thread:

US Metros and CSAs by Foreign Born Population, 2007

The foreign born numbers he posted are correct.

It also breaks down some of the individual countries.
The numbers I posted for Altanta, DFW, and Houston's asian population are correct. All you have to do is the math which I did for you.
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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18Montclair posts this data all the time. Here is what he posted from a previous thread:

US Metros and CSAs by Foreign Born Population, 2007

The foreign born numbers he posted are correct.

It also breaks down some of the individual countries.
The numbers I posted for Altanta, DFW, and Houston's asian population are correct. All you have to do is the math which I did for you.
This is also what he had to say about the numbers:
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The flaw in this link is that it only counts the number of people who have obtained permanent residency-it doesnt count those who have not yet received that status. So there are many who are not included in these numbers

Key words are:obtained permanent residencyand doesnt count those who have not yet received that status.That is a HUGE amount of the foreign born population.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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This is also what he had to say about the numbers:
Key words are:obtained permanent residencyand doesnt count those who have not yet received that status.That is a HUGE amount of the foreign born population.
Ok I saw where you got it from.Here: Asian American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Those are from 2000 Census.Mine came from the Census Update 2005,and 2008.Atlanta's foreign born population has grown faster than any other city in the South(if you take out Mexico).
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Ok I saw where you got it from.Here: Asian American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Those are from 2000 Census.Mine came from the Census Update 2005,and 2008.Atlanta's foreign born population has grown faster than any other city in the South(if you take out Mexico).
I dont doubt that if youre talking about percentages, if were talking numerically, not so.

Thats not at all where I got the numbers from. I took the 2007 estimate and did the math myself. Feel free to double check.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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This is also what he had to say about the numbers:
Key words are:obtained permanent residencyand doesnt count those who have not yet received that status.That is a HUGE amount of the foreign born population.
Yes it is, but its not a flaw thats biased towards one city or MSA. Its not a flaw that would all of the sudden make Atlanta have more of one group than anywhere else.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Denver
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What national contribution coming out of Boston would someone in Dallas care about?
Good question! Let's find out!

Well first off, mutual funds were created in Massachusetts, by Boston-based MFS Investments. Currently, some of the best mutual fund companies in the world, including Fidelity Investments, MFS Investments, State Street Global Advisors, John Hancock Funds, and Putnam Investments are located in Boston. Considering mutual funds are one of the major investment vehicles on the planet, I'd say people from all over should care about them.

State Street Bank (parent co of State Street Global Advisors) is also the largest manager of institutional investments on the planet. Along with that, Liberty Mutual is the fourth largest property and casualty insurer in the nation. Companies like The Boston Consulting Group and Bain & Co are considered to be two of the four best strategic management firms on the planet. Both have offices all over the country and world.

Boston could also be considered to be the third best private equity hub on the planet, behind New York City and London (based on total capital raised). Institutional investment managers and private equity companies don't necessarily affect every regular Joe walking down the street, but they're extremely important in the corporate world.

I think we can all agree that life sciences are important to our country and the world, right? Well the Milken Institute ranks Boston as the top life science cluster in the country. We're the #1 medical research center in the country, with Mass General, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Dana Farber Cancer Institute, and Brigham and Women's Hospital, among others.

The private sector around Boston includes companies like Genzyme, Biogen Idec, Boston Scientific, Millennium Pharmaceuticals, the research headquarters of Novartis AG, and the main pharmaceutical laboratory of Chicago-based Abbott Labs.

There are a bunch of other things that Boston produces that affect the entire nation, from semiconductors (Teradyne) to defense contracting (Raytheon). And I didn't even mention that little school across the Charles that produces all them Presidents!

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