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Old 10-20-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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More bad news in Ohio for Obama today. Gravis marketing has Ohio TIED at 47/47 using a D+9 model.

Gravis Marketing Polls and Market Research : Gravis Ohio Poll Shows...

NRO's Josh Jordan sums up the situation in Ohio pretty well:

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Obama won in 2008 largely because of a healthy lead among independents and a highly enthusiastic base’s turning out votes. Right now Romney is leading big with independents, has a more enthusiastic base, and is drawing crowds in Ohio that rival Obama’s. While he is down 2.5 points in the polls, the average poll is assuming 2008 turnout which is unlikely to repeat itself this year. Adding the fact that early voting is trending more Republican than in 2008, there is a lot of reason for optimism that this race is much closer than the current polls suggest. Not bad for a candidate who was declared dead in the state just a few weeks ago.
Link: Ohio Is Closer than You Think - By Josh Jordan - The Corner - National Review Online

P.S. Jordan's piece was written BEFORE the Gravis poll was released.

 
Old 10-20-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Election 2012 Likely Voters Trial Heat: Obama vs. Romney

Romney maintained his 6-point lead among likely voters in the Gallup tracking poll released today.

He expanded his lead among registered voters from 1 to 2:

Gallup Presidential Election Trial Heat Results: Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney
 
Old 10-20-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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All of a sudden some of the Repubs are picking apart certain polls and refusing to believe them.

They were agreeing with the polls the past couple weeks when Romney was peaking. Now, all of a sudden, certain polls are wrong. Not the polls that favor Romney, just the Obama favoring polls are wrong (somehow only the Romney favoring polls are correct).
 
Old 10-20-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by Trace21230 View Post
More bad news in Ohio for Obama today. Gravis marketing has Ohio TIED at 47/47 using a D+9 model.

Gravis Marketing Polls and Market Research : Gravis Ohio Poll Shows...

NRO's Josh Jordan sums up the situation in Ohio pretty well:



Link: Ohio Is Closer than You Think - By Josh Jordan - The Corner - National Review Online

P.S. Jordan's piece was written BEFORE the Gravis poll was released.
Gravis had Romney up last week, so I guess Obama is surging.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The Ohio firewall is cracked and dented now. Big Bird and Romnesia won't help either.
The Ohio firewall is turning into a Maginot line, guess they'll have to fall back to New Hampshire
 
Old 10-20-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Ohio firewall is turning into a Maginot line, guess they'll have to fall back to New Hampshire
Romney is ahead in NH according to the RCP average, so it won't be one of their firewall states. He's up in CO too.

They have no firewall anymore, even if IA is a firewall state (and given that even PPP has Romney up there, it's doubtful).
 
Old 10-20-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: FL
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Funny how you completely over-look the very large Jewish vote in Florida:



p.s. - that's in W. Palm Beach county, definitely south of Ocala.
Palm Beach county always goes to the democrats.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: FL
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The Florida polls that break out Jewish voters show Obama leading about 75:25 with that demographic. They do caution, though, that the sample is small.
as they always do.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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All of a sudden some of the Repubs are picking apart certain polls and refusing to believe them.

They were agreeing with the polls the past couple weeks when Romney was peaking. Now, all of a sudden, certain polls are wrong. Not the polls that favor Romney, just the Obama favoring polls are wrong (somehow only the Romney favoring polls are correct).
Yep, the Cons only believe the polls when they find one that shows Romney ahead.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yep, the Cons only believe the polls when they find one that shows Romney ahead.
Well, since EVERY poll, national and state, is trending Romney...which poll are you talking about?

PPP Dem pollster;

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...se_OH_1020.pdf

Obama by 1...with a DEM+8 D/R/I split.

Romney is actually leading then. There is NO WAY democrats will exceed the enthusiasm of 2008.

In this poll, they over sample dems, seriously under sample Indies...but this is what they need to do to keep obama in the lead.
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