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My Europe comment was reference to the fact that San Francisco is a Eurocentric city, plain and simple. My point in saying that San Francisco is overrated is because as the fourth most important city in the United States (arguable) everyone is always saying how much there is to offer, but how can you be a "world class" city and not have something for everyone? Just how am I supposed to praise a city that has nothing for me to do?
Nothing to do in the SF bay area? Good thing most ppl and millions of visitors don't share that mentality.
Wait, aren't you that same dude who thinks Houston's nightlife is superior to NY city's?
I guess any city that has density can seem eurocentric to some density deficit Houstoners. It does feel like one is visiting Europe after dealing with all that sprawl.
My point in saying that San Francisco is overrated is because as the fourth most important city in the United States (arguable) everyone is always saying how much there is to offer, but how can you be a "world class" city and not have something for everyone? Just how am I supposed to praise a city that has nothing for me to do?
when people named Houston as an underrated city with not much to do you jumped all over them stating they came determined not to be happy or not knowing where to look. yet it's ok for you to use that same argument when speaking of SF?
as you yourself said, every city is not for everyone. but apparently if houston is one of those cities, we're "ignorant".
when people named Houston as an underrated city with not much to do you jumped all over them stating they came determined not to be happy or not knowing where to look. yet it's ok for you to use that same argument when speaking of SF?
as you yourself said, every city is not for everyone. but apparently if houston is one of those cities, we're "ignorant".
There is a little difference though. SF has the stamp of tourism to prove its impressiveness.
It's not that there is nothing for you to do, but rather that you choose NOT to do the things that ARE available.
best wishes.....Franco
Please, okay. I lead a full life, I love getting out and doing things that I'm not expected to do, trying things I've never tried, but I also like to be able to do the things I love and talk to people who have the same interests as me. I've expanded my horizons my entire life, but I also like to be within my comfort zone. San Francisco just did not do that for me.
Nothing to do in the SF bay area? Good thing most ppl and millions of visitors don't share that mentality.
Never said there was nothing to do. I said there was nothing for me to do. San Francisco has few alternatives. Neither catered to me.
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Wait, aren't you that same dude who thinks Houston's nightlife is superior to NY city's?
This is no dude.
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I guess any city that has density can seem eurocentric to some density deficit Houstoners. It does feel like one is visiting Europe after dealing with all that sprawl.
The area of Houston that I live and work in has minimal sprawl so don't tell me what I'm used to. And San Francisco didn't seem Eurocentric, it is Eurocentric. It has very little to do with the build of a city. New York and Chicago are also built dense. They're also somewhat "Euro", but those cities do such a good job of integrating cultures and lifestyles that you would never notice.
when people named Houston as an underrated city with not much to do you jumped all over them stating they came determined not to be happy or not knowing where to look. yet it's ok for you to use that same argument when speaking of SF?
as you yourself said, every city is not for everyone. but apparently if houston is one of those cities, we're "ignorant".
Don't remember saying ignorant, but you're missing the point. Houston's and San Francisco's cons are very different. Houston is one of the three major melting pots in this country. There is something for every race and culture, so whether you like the city or not, that fact, you can't deny. SF, on the other hand, does poorly in that area.
Don't remember saying ignorant, but you're missing the point. Houston's and San Francisco's cons are very different. Houston is one of the three major melting pots in this country. There is something for every race and culture, so whether you like the city or not, that fact, you can't deny. SF, on the other hand, does poorly in that area.
There's more than 3 melting posts in the country. I know NY and LA are listed. But Miami, Chicago, DC, and yes, even San Francisco must be listed.
BUT, I do agree with mpope on San Francisco's black population. Most are found in Hunter's Point. The city itself doesn't have a large black population at all. I'm willing to bet Austin has a larger black population and even they don't have that many. It would be interesting if a black San Franciscan would share what the black population's role is in the city alone. Not the entire Bay Area. I love San Francisco because of it's vibe and it's density as well as the many tourists spots they have. Just wondering what they have to offer when it comes to what Black Americans are looking for such as theatre, soul food, churches and more.
Never said there was nothing to do. I said there was nothing for me to do. San Francisco has few alternatives. Neither catered to me.
This is no dude.
The area of Houston that I live and work in has minimal sprawl so don't tell me what I'm used to. And San Francisco didn't seem Eurocentric, it is Eurocentric. It has very little to do with the build of a city. New York and Chicago are also built dense. They're also somewhat "Euro", but those cities do such a good job of integrating cultures and lifestyles that you would never notice.
I don't know why you want to argue semantics, but since you did, let me rephrase.
Nothing to do in the SF bay area? Good thing most ppl and millions of visitors don't share that mentality. I would take that as a testimony/proof to how much stuff there is to do than one unknown online poster's interpretation.
Wait, aren't you that same girl, woman or lady who thinks Houston's nightlife is superior to NY city's?
I guess any city that has density is eurocentric to density deficit Houstoners. It does feel like one is visiting Europe after dealing with all that lack of density. And even the most dense area like midtown is considered spread out by San Francisco's standards, so don't tell me minimum sprawl is not sprawl.
And eurocentric is a positive thing, so I don't know how saying that "it is" instead of "it seems" makes a case for less impressiveness. if NY and Chicago is somewhat euro too, it makes a stronger case.
Integrating cultures and lifestyles? I have lived in both(not just visited) places, San Francisco is diverse and well integrated culturally, compare that to Houston which is diverse but pretty self segregated for a city this diverse. That subject of culture is very subjective, but many folks would agree that that San Francisco's is more vibrant than Houston's.
There's more than 3 melting posts in the country. I know NY and LA are listed. But Miami, Chicago, DC, and yes, even San Francisco must be listed.
Well New York, Los Angeles, and Houston are the major ones. Chicago should probably be named as well. DC and Miami not as much. They're probably as diverse as Dallas or Atlanta.
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