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The citizens, the CITIZENS, of the State DEMANDED this Daniel.
Or, don't you care what the citizens want Daniel?
Is that it?
I can only care about what the citizens want if it is a power delegated in the Constitution. Otherwise, you are no better than the tyranny our Founding Father's fought a revolutionary war over. Are you saying our Founding Father's wasted their time and we should still be a British colony?
If you don't mind paying higher taxes, why bother complaining about the higher costs associated with illegals in the country?
Daniel - you are having a comprehension problem obviously - and, like going in circles
First off - the cost of enforcement (10 million) will save the state over $1 Billion in necessary taxes - so, you tell me Daniel - which would you rather spend - 10 million or over 1 Billion? Which one Daniel
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States don't have any constitutional authority to enforce US customs, or impair in the obligation of contracts; unless, they are willing to engage in false-patriotism to our glorious Constitution.
You seem to be saying that the State of Arizona, and the voters, had/have no right to enact an employers sanctions law - am I correct here Daniel?
You have to look at the amount that the STATE will spend on the issue Daniel - not the Feds
As for California, they will spend far less than 10 Billion Dollars to reduce illegal immigration in the State
Where in the state constitution of Arizona, is there a specifically enumerated power to enforce US customs? Or do you believe in wasting taxpayer money on un-constitutional public sector interference.
Since when does the fact of filling out a form for something and, mere, lying stop citizens from committing fraud?
No, it is not worse to simply walk across an imaginary line that divides states, than it is to take the law into your own hands with a power not granted in the Constitution.
Your reliance on red herrings lessens your credibility and can be considered a form of lying if you are trying to persuade people of the authenticity of your position.
All nations have the right to defend their borders, all nations have a right to declare their own immigration laws regardless of being fair or not. It is not unreasonable for any nation to expect that its borders be respected. It is not unreasonable for the citizens of any nation to expect those who cross illegally to be vigorously prosecuted and deported.
For those who do these deeds they illustrate their contempt and complete disregard for the laws of the host nation. I for one do not want nor need this kind of immigrant. My wife is a legal immigrant.... She respected the laws and the system and she most definetly dispises those who don't.
More power to the minutemen I only wish that they could be made into a new branch of law enforcement..
I can only care about what the citizens want if it is a power delegated in the Constitution.
Daniel - I gave you the exact scenario as to how the Employer Sanctions law came about in AZ. Do you approve of the law inasmuch as it occured by way of citizens petitioning their government?
Daniel - you are having a comprehension problem obviously - and, like going in circles
First off - the cost of enforcement (10 million) will save the state over $1 Billion in necessary taxes - so, you tell me Daniel - which would you rather spend - 10 million or over 1 Billion? Which one Daniel
You seem to be saying that the State of Arizona, and the voters, had/have no right to enact an employers sanctions law - am I correct here Daniel?
How will an incurred cost save money? Don't costs usually cost money? As an example, how much are we saving on the drug war with 60 billion in enforcement costs?
Where in the state constitution of Arizona, is there a specifically enumerated power to enforce US customs? .
Daniel - clearly, very clearly, you are ignoring the fact that the state of Az is enforcing employment laws - something that ALL THE STATE do - ALL THE STATES tell employers who they cannot hire - I gave you several example - very common ones.
Why is it you have deliberatly refused to acknowledge this?
All nations have the right to defend their borders, all nations have a right to declare their own immigration laws regardless of being fair or not. It is not unreasonable for any nation to expect that its borders be respected. It is not unreasonable for the citizens of any nation to expect those who cross illegally to be vigorously prosecuted and deported.
For those who do these deeds they illustrate their contempt and complete disregard for the laws of the host nation. I for one do not want nor need this kind of immigrant. My wife is a legal immigrant.... She respected the laws and the system and she most definetly dispises those who don't.
More power to the minutemen I only wish that they could be made into a new branch of law enforcement..
A market friendly work visa will accomplish the same thing, only it will also reduce public and private sector costs in the process. Prohibition did not work before. Why do you think it will work now? Even the evil drug empire knows what you prohibitionists seem to not know, even though it is in black and white in our history books.
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