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Old 07-10-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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The violence in the city this past week has been alarming. The number of shootings are staggering.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The violence in the city this past week has been alarming. The number of shootings are staggering.
I overheard that Lincoln Hospital and Bronx Lebanon Hospital haS been very busy this past holiday weekend. THank goodness I was not a victim.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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I overheard that Lincoln Hospital and Bronx Lebanon Hospital haS been very busy this past holiday weekend. THank goodness I was not a victim.
Here , this twitter page updates all the crimes in the city. Keep yourself in the loop.

https://twitter.com/NYScanner

This is the shooting on Loring PL I told you about earlier.

"Bronx: 2287 Loring Pl N ESU Being requested forthwith in regards to a male shot, Active crime scene. 15 People shot in NYC so far."

183rd street has been busy, because the homicide on Davidson, the above shooting on Loring, and this one on the Grand Concourse all happened on 183rd street, in the span of a couple of days.

"Bronx: 2230 Grand Concourse NYPD on scene with a female shot, EMS will transport, Crime scene being established."
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Just to bring the hype back into focus, the "spike in crime" this past week was almost entirely due to crime in Brooklyn.

More shootings and murders rock the city as ‘summer of blood’ gets worse - NYPOST.com

CityWide 2012 2011
Shooting Victims 77 60
Shooting Incidents 62 47
Murders 21 18

Brooklyn
Shooting Victims 38 21
Shooting Incidents 29 16
Murders 8 3

Bronx
Shooting Victims 17 15
Shooting Incidents 14 12
Murders 5 7

This is a Brooklyn crime wave this past week.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Just to bring the hype back into focus, the "spike in crime" this past week was almost entirely due to crime in Brooklyn.

More shootings and murders rock the city as ‘summer of blood’ gets worse - NYPOST.com

CityWide 2012 2011
Shooting Victims 77 60
Shooting Incidents 62 47
Murders 21 18

Brooklyn
Shooting Victims 38 21
Shooting Incidents 29 16
Murders 8 3

Bronx
Shooting Victims 17 15
Shooting Incidents 14 12
Murders 5 7

This is a Brooklyn crime wave this past week.
Why are you comparing a borough of 2.5 million to one of 1.3 million? What those numbers tell me is that the Bronx per capita has been bloodier. So, it has been a city crime wave this past week.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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The article mentioned raw numbers increase in 2012 from 2011, and where did the raw number increase come from? BROOKLYN. If you compare the Bronx in 2012 vs 2011, it is a negligible increase that week (and reduction in murders)...if you look at Brooklyn from 2012 vs 2011, it is clearly driving almost all of the crime increase.

You can discuss per capita crime...but that's not what the article is about. It simply compares 2012 vs 2011, and Brooklyn was almost 100% of the increase in NYC crime YOY for the week. So the reality is, there was not a big crime wave in NYC, there was a big crime wave in Brooklyn, and the article proves it.

That's the difference between a "scary headline" (NYC crime wave!) and facts (Brooklyn's crime accounts for all of the increase). If Brooklyn's shootings/murders were the same as last year, there would be no article or story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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The article mentioned raw numbers increase in 2012 from 2011, and where did the raw number increase come from? BROOKLYN. If you compare the Bronx in 2012 vs 2011, it is a negligible increase that week (and reduction in murders)...if you look at Brooklyn from 2012 vs 2011, it is clearly driving almost all of the crime increase.

You can discuss per capita crime...but that's not what the article is about. It simply compares 2012 vs 2011, and Brooklyn was almost 100% of the increase in NYC crime YOY for the week. So the reality is, there was not a big crime wave in NYC, there was a big crime wave in Brooklyn, and the article proves it.

That's the difference between a "scary headline" (NYC crime wave!) and facts (Brooklyn's crime accounts for all of the increase). If Brooklyn's shootings/murders were the same as last year, there would be no article or story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So when the Bronx has a bad week, do you say the same thing?
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Firstly, you mentioned the "staggering" violence across NYC, then continued to give some Bronx examples. I simply corrected you to note that the Bronx is basically flat for the week vs last year, and it was in fact a Brooklyn crime spree, not the Bronx, which was the "staggering" violence. It was not across NYC, it was not across the Bronx, it was solely in Brooklyn.

Secondly, I don't need to mention anything bad about the Bronx, because then you would have no purpose on city-data. I don't want to send you to the city-data unemployment line...not in this economy.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Harlem World
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Man, 19, shot dead in Chelsea

Man, 19, shot dead outside Chelsea Houses - NY Daily News

uh oh....Chelsea......see not everyone is shot in Brooklyn, Bronx, and Harlem folks
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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Well to be fair it was the housing projects in Chelsea, so it's no different than the usual BK/BX/Harlem shootings.
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