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The neighborhoods in transition are diverse and anyone who can afford to or wants to stay in said neighborhoods can.
What basically happens in those cases is that not everyone can fit into Manhattan below 59th Street so a lot of people have no choice but to move uptown or to places like Jackson Heights or Bedstuy.
But parts of Manhattan that are completely gentrified still remain diverse. Believe it or not some non whites have money and can live in nice places. The poor ones in public housing are not displaced by gentrification.
You're wrong. Flat out.
Of course there are non Whites/Asians that can afford to live in Manhattan. However, they are so few in numbers that they are statistically insignificant. My family and I joke that when tourists come to NYC, they must fly away believing that NYC is 90% White beause the only minorities they see in Manhattan are those working in retail.
If you remove the populations of the projects/rent controlled tenants in Manhattan, the White population would easily top 85%. That's what's slowly happening anyway.
Those living in Jackson Heights or Bed Stuy aren't there because there's no room Manhattan below 59th. That's laughable. They're there because they can't afford it. It's not between Bed-Stuy and Manhattan for them. It's between Bed-Stuy or another cheaper but inaccessible (vis-a-vis public transportation) place in Brooklyn or Queens.
I grew up in this City and going on my 30th year now. NYC neighborhoods were always heavily segregated as far as I could remember. The city as a whole is a melting pot because of it's relatively small size (high density) but the neighborhoods themselves are not.
Of course there are non Whites/Asians that can afford to live in Manhattan. However, they are so few in numbers that they are statistically insignificant. My family and I joke that when tourists come to NYC, they must fly away believing that NYC is 90% White beause the only minorities they see in Manhattan are those working in retail.
If you remove the populations of the projects/rent controlled tenants in Manhattan, the White population would easily top 85%. That's what's slowly happening anyway.
Those living in Jackson Heights or Bed Stuy aren't there because there's no room Manhattan below 59th. That's laughable. They're there because they can't afford it. It's not between Bed-Stuy and Manhattan for them. It's between Bed-Stuy or another cheaper but inaccessible (vis-a-vis public transportation) place in Brooklyn or Queens.
I grew up in this City and going on my 30th year now. NYC neighborhoods were always heavily segregated as far as I could remember. The city as a whole is a melting pot because of it's relatively small size (high density) but the neighborhoods themselves are not.
Well that's a dumb joke because I see plenty of diversity in Midtown and Lower Manhattan
Granted, most of the minorities don't live there but then again neither do most of the white people
And that map you keep posting does not prove your point, there are areas which seem pretty segregated but many, likely the majority, would reveal a good mix of ethnicities in a given area whether or not that area is "in transition"
Any area with a sizeable population of at least two, especially three ethnic groups is diverse
Woodhaven, Briarwood, Bayside, Elmhurst, Jackson Heights, Kensington, Coney Island, and many other neighborhoods definitely fit the definition of diverse
I grew up in this City and going on my 30th year now. NYC neighborhoods were always heavily segregated as far as I could remember. The city as a whole is a melting pot because of it's relatively small size (high density) but the neighborhoods themselves are not.
Of course there are non Whites/Asians that can afford to live in Manhattan. However, they are so few in numbers that they are statistically insignificant. My family and I joke that when tourists come to NYC, they must fly away believing that NYC is 90% White beause the only minorities they see in Manhattan are those working in retail.
If you remove the populations of the projects/rent controlled tenants in Manhattan, the White population would easily top 85%. That's what's slowly happening anyway.
Those living in Jackson Heights or Bed Stuy aren't there because there's no room Manhattan below 59th. That's laughable. They're there because they can't afford it. It's not between Bed-Stuy and Manhattan for them. It's between Bed-Stuy or another cheaper but inaccessible (vis-a-vis public transportation) place in Brooklyn or Queens.
I grew up in this City and going on my 30th year now. NYC neighborhoods were always heavily segregated as far as I could remember. The city as a whole is a melting pot because of it's relatively small size (high density) but the neighborhoods themselves are not.
The map you provided showed decent numbers of Blacks and Hispanics in the Lower East Side and Hells a Kitchen. Blacks are supposed to be 12 of the national population. A census track in midtown east was 3 percent black. That is statistically significant and a number of tracks in Manhattan below 59 th street showed statistically significant percentages of Blacks and Hispanics. Lower Manhattan is so expensive because a lot of people are bidding for a small supply of housing. In short there isn't much room for new housing ( and zoning regulations prevent much talk new housing).
Those people moving to JH and BS are moving there because there isn't enough room for them in lower Manhattan. The lack of space and high demand as made prices go through the roof.
I think this thread is full of unattractive people with poor social skills. Minorities are very active participants of the life of lower Manhattan. Do you ever go to social places like restaurants, bars, etc? The gyms, stores, etc?
Living in a neighborhood does not restrict your social life to said neighborhood. Anyone who can afford lower Manhattan can live there if they want to. It isn't segregation!
Well that's a dumb joke because I see plenty of diversity in Midtown and Lower Manhattan
Granted, most of the minorities don't live there but then again neither do most of the white people
And that map you keep posting does not prove your point, there are areas which seem pretty segregated but many, likely the majority, would reveal a good mix of ethnicities in a given area whether or not that area is "in transition"
Any area with a sizeable population of at least two, especially three ethnic groups is diverse
Woodhaven, Briarwood, Bayside, Elmhurst, Jackson Heights, Kensington, Coney Island, and many other neighborhoods definitely fit the definition of diverse
None of those neighborhoods were entirely of a certain group. NYC is segregated by socioeconomic a not a race. A white person on welfare will have to move the Bronx. A Hispanic person with enough money can buy in Midtown.
Person making 50k or so will have to consider neighborhoods like Jackson Heights or Bedstuy regardless of race because that is where they can afford to live.
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