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Old 07-14-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Can you even legally compel someone to do a paternity test, when the child whose paternity is in question is a legal adult? Since your father is no longer legally required to provide for your support, I'd be surprised if he could force the issue.

OP, one thing you might wish to consider-- while you're okay with submitting to the test because you have no doubt, please consider how it would make your mother feel.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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I'll try to mention the therapist issue. I know I can't change him but I hope he regrets what he done one day.

The only thing that scarred him was when one my brothers questioned if he should allow him to see his kids.
Look, someone has got to be the grownup here and it looks like you're elected.

Be loving but firm with your mom - she needs professional help.

State this factually, don't just "mention" it.

She is having a hard time organizing her thoughts so one of the best things you can do is to state her options clearly, and them restate them again.

Do not engage in conversation with her that rehash all the he said/she said crap.

Just get her to a therapist and continue to let her know you love her - that's all.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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Can you even legally compel someone to do a paternity test, when the child whose paternity is in question is a legal adult? Since your father is no longer legally required to provide for your support, I'd be surprised if he could force the issue.

OP, one thing you might wish to consider-- while you're okay with submitting to the test because you have no doubt, please consider how it would make your mother feel.
Now that you mention it, I hadn't thought about it that way. But I believe he'll give up on the idea. He knows we are his sons, we are younger versions of him. Tell me about karma.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Look, someone has got to be the grownup here and it looks like you're elected.

Be loving but firm with your mom - she needs professional help.

State this factually, don't just "mention" it.

She is having a hard time organizing her thoughts so one of the best things you can do is to state her options clearly, and them restate them again.

Do not engage in conversation with her that rehash all the he said/she said crap.

Just get her to a therapist and continue to let her know you love her - that's all.
Thanks. I try my best with her and I'm the one who devotes more time to her (I'm the only one who's single and childless).

She's also great disturbed that he made other women get an abortion. All together, he has aborted 5 babies.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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My mother used my father's laptop the other day and found his email open. She saw several emails with highly sexual content and many of them were answers to escort ads.

They had a huge argument and my father said he also had reasons to doubt her. He said he was always suspicious about me (I'm the younger son and the one he likes the least). Therefore he wants a paternity test done on me and my brothers as well.

He's 65 and she's 57. She keeps crying and doesn't know what to do. I know what she should do but she has never left him. In the past he has got two of his assistants and three of his patients pregnant but he always managed to convince them to have an abortion.

Women, any suggestion? I'm okay with the paternity test, there's no way I'm not his son. The nose, the eyes, the mouth are copies of his. I even have the same birth mark in the chest.
I find this situation very, very sad. I am glad you aren't taking this personal...it is quite the deversion tactic for your Dad to pull this after he was caught.
I feel badly that your mother never had the strength to leave such an abusive man.
What she should do is go talk to an attorey. She can get half of all assets, a decent spousal support package and not have to continue to deal with this...sorry ...Jerk!
It sounds like you are pretty level headed. I hope that you'll continue to support your mother and perhaps attempt to introduce her to the subject of emotional, & financial abuse. My heart hurts for your situation.
I left a very abusive man many, many years ago. My sons are and were all the better for it I know.
What you accept you teach.
Dynamics of Emotional Abuse in Relationships, Marriage - HealthyPlace
Co-dependency: Mental Health America
How to Deal with Emotional Abuse: 9 Steps (with Pictures)
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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I find this situation very, very sad. I am glad you aren't taking this personal...it is quite the deversion tactic for your Dad to pull this after he was caught.
I feel badly that your mother never had the strength to leave such an abusive man.
What she should do is go talk to an attorey. She can get half of all assets, a decent spousal support package and not have to continue to deal with this...sorry ...Jerk!
It sounds like you are pretty level headed. I hope that you'll continue to support your mother and perhaps attempt to introduce her to the subject of emotional, & financial abuse. My heart hurts for your situation.
I left a very abusive man many, many years ago. My sons are and were all the better for it I know.
What you accept you teach.
Dynamics of Emotional Abuse in Relationships, Marriage - HealthyPlace
Co-dependency: Mental Health America
How to Deal with Emotional Abuse: 9 Steps (with Pictures)
Infidelity
Oh well I was born into this so I'm used to it. Like I said, I know he won't go ahead with the test thing in the end.

I believe he might change once he truly starts to age and problems start showing up. He'll need help like everyone else.

This was my closest contact with him:

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One day as a kid I tried to hug my father and he slapped me so hard that my lips cut open. Didn't try it again.
Taught me a lesson.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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That can't be an excuse. Besides, their intimate life is not my business.

But I once found out a VHS video of him having sex in his office. He taped himself. I was 13 and found it disgusting but never showed it to my mother.
Oh sweetie....how awful for you! Some men have no business getting married if they cannot be faithful. I agree with the fact that your Mom should get a good lawyer. If for no other reason, do the paternity test to prove him wrong. As far as the comment that stated if she had pleased him in the bedroom and let him live his life....REALLY????? Some men cheat no matter what you do!!!! Best of luck to your Mom. You sound like a good kid! Stay that way
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood, DE and beautiful SXM!
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She needs the best divorce attorney that she can find and have your father pay for it. The best attorney will be able to handle that. She then needs to get a fresh start. Good luck to her.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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I'm okay with the paternity test, there's no way I'm not his son. The nose, the eyes, the mouth are copies of his. I even have the same birth mark in the chest.
If she has no intention of divorcing him, then I would not get myself worked up over it. I would also not play along with my father's little bit of theater and the paternity test. If they wanted to be crazy and stir up trouble at their age, I would let them do that in their own house and relationship and would conveniently "hear a pot boiling over" every time the subject got back to this tired little gem in phone conversations.

You can be invited to drama, but you don't have to participate.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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She should get half of what the accumulated during their marriage - or at least enough to live on. And you're never too old to walk away from an abusive relationship. Even if he doesn't physically abuse her - he is clearly abusing her emotionally.
Yes. She sounds less like a wife and more like a hostage with Stockholm Syndrome. She needs therapy first and THEN a lawyer.
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