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Old 02-19-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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Didn't the American people and the people of Arizona vote against those things when they elected Trump? I mean it was very clear where Trump and Clinton stood on all of those issues- no one was deceived.
Given that he lost the popular vote, there are many more people that disagree with his policies.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Given that he lost the popular vote, there are many more people that disagree with his policies.
I am not super "involved" in the issue on either side. It was just an observation. I mean the election was held and the side they disagree with won according to the rules that govern elections. Maybe their time would be better spent researching how the elections work so they could win next time.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:51 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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What I would prefer to see if a protest is going to happen is it be concise,focused,non violent,no property damage and not about socialism or pure socialist ideas that will never happen no matter how much protesting is done.
Keep it pithy and about 1 or two things that people can wrap their heads around. This broad laundry list of (some) bizarre demands just turns most people off as they don't have the time or want to read through it all.
Drop the childish chants, this hey,hey,ho,ho stuff has got to go as it's juvenile to say the least, same with the "no justice,no peace as all that says is you want to get violent if you don't get YOUR way... No Bueno!
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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Didn't the American people and the people of Arizona vote against those things when they elected Trump? I mean it was very clear where Trump and Clinton stood on all of those issues- no one was deceived.
  • 1,161,167 votes Clinton

  • 1,252,401 votes Trump




He barely won here.



If I recall, we were the last state actually called because of how close it was.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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What I would prefer to see if a protest is going to happen is it be concise,focused,non violent,no property damage and not about socialism or pure socialist ideas that will never happen no matter how much protesting is done.
Keep it pithy and about 1 or two things that people can wrap their heads around. This broad laundry list of (some) bizarre demands just turns most people off as they don't have the time or want to read through it all.
Drop the childish chants, this hey,hey,ho,ho stuff has got to go as it's juvenile to say the least, same with the "no justice,no peace as all that says is you want to get violent if you don't get YOUR way... No Bueno!
Whether or not it's effective is one thing, but they certainly seem to have gotten your attention! Wow.
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Whether or not it's effective is one thing, but they certainly seem to have gotten your attention! Wow.
There's a difference between attention and derision. They got the latter...
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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They are bolded for you.

We stand with ALL IMMIGRANTS--DOCUMENTED AND UNDOCUMENTED.
We stand with our MUSLIM brothers and sisters against ISLAMOPHOBIA.
We stand with our BLACK brothers and sisters against POLICE BRUTALITY and proclaim that BLACK LIVES MATTER.
We stand with ALL communities of COLOR against all forms of RACISM.
We stand with FIRST NATIONS, our INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, and with STANDING ROCK, and declare that the DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE, SOUTH MOUNTAIN FREEWAY, and all forms of COLONIZATION will no...t be tolerated.
We stand with the TRANS and ***** communities against all forms of inequality, HOMOPHOBIA, AND TRANSPHOBIA.
We stand with WOMEN and demand equal treatment, access to healthcare, equal pay, and to SMASH PATRIARCHY AND MISOGYNY.
We stand with WORKERS, the ENVIRONMENT, for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, and for all people and communities struggling against OPPRESSION."

Thanks for the bolding that stuff, that really helps show where your at least smart enough to cherry pick the minority of each statement to suit your needs. Let's see what happens if we're not so selective shall we?

We stand with ALL IMMIGRANTS--DOCUMENTED AND UNDOCUMENTED.
We stand with our MUSLIM brothers and sisters against ISLAMOPHOBIA.
We stand with our BLACK brothers and sisters against POLICE BRUTALITY and proclaim that BLACK LIVES MATTER.
We stand with ALL communities of COLOR against all forms of RACISM.
We stand with FIRST NATIONS, our INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, and with STANDING ROCK, and declare that the DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE, SOUTH MOUNTAIN FREEWAY, and all forms of COLONIZATION will no...t be tolerated.
We stand with the TRANS and ***** communities against all forms of inequality, HOMOPHOBIA, AND TRANSPHOBIA.
We stand with WOMEN and demand equal treatment, access to healthcare, equal pay, and to SMASH PATRIARCHY AND MISOGYNY.
We stand with WORKERS, the ENVIRONMENT, for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, and for all people and communities struggling against OPPRESSION."


See I can do it to, execpt I'm focusing on the actual points

So they don't stand with natives? What about people that aren't Muslim? What about all the people that aren't black? The Dakota access pipeline is a legal project and those "protesters" are go way beyond peaceful protest. Funny on the women thing, there's millions of women in the workforce making way more than men, but when that happens it's just because there better at their job, have more seniority, or argued a better compensation package, but if a MAN makes more money, it's sexist right? Show me the oppression.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Thanks for the bolding that stuff, that really helps show where your at least smart enough to cherry pick the minority of each statement to suit your needs. Let's see what happens if we're not so selective shall we?

We stand with ALL IMMIGRANTS--DOCUMENTED AND UNDOCUMENTED.
We stand with our MUSLIM brothers and sisters against ISLAMOPHOBIA.
We stand with our BLACK brothers and sisters against POLICE BRUTALITY and proclaim that BLACK LIVES MATTER.
We stand with ALL communities of COLOR against all forms of RACISM.
We stand with FIRST NATIONS, our INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, and with STANDING ROCK, and declare that the DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE, SOUTH MOUNTAIN FREEWAY, and all forms of COLONIZATION will no...t be tolerated.
We stand with the TRANS and ***** communities against all forms of inequality, HOMOPHOBIA, AND TRANSPHOBIA.
We stand with WOMEN and demand equal treatment, access to healthcare, equal pay, and to SMASH PATRIARCHY AND MISOGYNY.
We stand with WORKERS, the ENVIRONMENT, for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, and for all people and communities struggling against OPPRESSION."


See I can do it to, execpt I'm focusing on the actual points

So they don't stand with natives? What about people that aren't Muslim? What about all the people that aren't black? The Dakota access pipeline is a legal project and those "protesters" are go way beyond peaceful protest. Funny on the women thing, there's millions of women in the workforce making way more than men, but when that happens it's just because there better at their job, have more seniority, or argued a better compensation package, but if a MAN makes more money, it's sexist right? Show me the oppression.
Didn't you get the memo from the Pus$y hat march? It's oppression if someone is doing better than you for whatever reason (they work harder,know more,show up,are loyal etc)...
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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Seems to me there are a lot of people in this country mad at life in general because they've been told by the likes of Bernie Sanders, BHO, etc. that the only reason they're broke is because someone far away has all the lazy people's money in a huge bank account somewhere and are too greedy to release it. Why, if that top one percent would just hand all their money out to those who haven't earned it, we'd be living in paradise. So until that day comes, they're going to block working people from getting to their jobs, demand free college, free food, free healthcare... oh, and we have to let the rest of the world in to get free stuff too. And by the way, those people blocking you from getting to work are the intellectuals, and you people are the stupid ones for not recognizing that you shouldn't have to work, you can just protest for a living.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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  • 1,161,167 votes Clinton

  • 1,252,401 votes Trump




He barely won here.



If I recall, we were the last state actually called because of how close it was.
All the more reason for then to spend their time on elections instead of this sort of thing! You have proven my point thank you!
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