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Old 05-23-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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This does affect our seniors as well as plenty of US citizens, not everyone has a drivers license or state issued ID card, what is everyone supposed to do? run out and buy an ID card, all the seniors that don't have them, this is just some more trouble the GOP is causing, they clearly don't want people to vote, this concerns all voters no matter what party. So anyone out there I'd let your parents know and children who can vote to go get a state issued ID card to vote, I'm all for proving citizenship, it isn't just about the illegals. I wrote this in the past, now down the road your parents will not be able to vote unless they have the state issued ID card.
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Voting rights advocates note that there are large numbers of people who do not have the state-issued photo ID the bill requires. According to a recent University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee study, those without state-issued photo ID who would need to obtain one under the new Voter ID bill include:
* 23 percent of Wisconsinites over the age of 65.
* 17 percent of white men and women.
* 55 percent of African American males and 49 percent of African American women.
* 46 percent of Hispanic men and 53 percent of Hispanic women.
* 78 percent of African American males age 18-24 and 66 percent of African American women age 18-24.

What would this add up to with the whole country?


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Your post is just that same old liberal lie about all/most seniors not having an ID.....
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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The book I sign when I go to vote does not have my signature. The best they could do is check it later if the suspected something wasn't correct.
Most of the books I've seen that people sign when they vote, have a flip page with your signatures from past votes on it. I know the one in PA for example had 20+ years of my singatures in it, they were just on seperate pages from the current signature page.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Most of the books I've seen that people sign when they vote, have a flip page with your signatures from past votes on it. I know the one in PA for example had 20+ years of my singatures in it, they were just on seperate pages from the current signature page.
In Colorado when you vote in person, you fill out a form with your signature and give it to the election judge. I guess at that point they check the signature.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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If you can figure out how to cast a vote, you can figure out how to get an ID. You have until November 2012 to figure it out how to get it done.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Using both Photo ID and signature checks would solve most of it. Photo ID's are better than signature checks, especially when they aren't even checking them at the time of voting. But both would be even better.
What are they going to compare the photo id against? Will the government have everyone's photo on file? Will that photo be accessible at the polling station?
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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fine..then let's go with the mosre expensive biometrics

but something has to be done..some ACCOUNTABILITY has to happen..some RESPONSIBILITY has to happen

I really dont understand why the issue with showing ID before you vote...what are you hiding????
You can go with whatever makes you happy. Just don't ask me to believe or pretend that is actually making the process more secure than it really is.

Voter participation rates are already pathetically low in the United States. Fixing a presumed problem with a process that is likely to disenfranchise even more voters doesn't seem like a worthwhile goal.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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What are they going to compare the photo id against? Will the government have everyone's photo on file? Will that photo be accessible at the polling station?
They'll probably use the traditional method of comparing it against the face of the person that presented it.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They'll probably use the traditional method of comparing it against the face of the person that presented it.
So how often will you have to get a new one? Every two years? Four years? ???
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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What are they going to compare the photo id against? Will the government have everyone's photo on file? Will that photo be accessible at the polling station?
So are you suggesting finger prints and retinal scans
or no ID whatsoever? Is it all or nothing?
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Most of the books I've seen that people sign when they vote, have a flip page with your signatures from past votes on it. I know the one in PA for example had 20+ years of my singatures in it, they were just on seperate pages from the current signature page.
I don't know how it occurs across the country. I imagine there are many different procedures in use. Over the years, I've voted in several different states. Until recently I wasn't watching what was being done to confirm my identity.

I will have to check the next time I vote, but I'm pretty sure the "book" I'm signing doesn't contain anything but my current registration information. Its just way to skinny to have past data in it.

The workers at my polling place are typically moving on to the next voter after I've signed; so they are not verifying the signature.

Perhaps they could check it if one of the party poll watchers challenged the validity of a registered voter. I've never seen it happen.

I am aware of case where someone arrived at polling station only to be informed that someone had already voted in his name. I don't know the outcome of that case.
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