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Old 06-01-2013, 06:09 PM
Status: "I hate living in Georgia!!" (set 9 days ago)
 
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Based on your comments, you believe that behavior is determined by skin color. In your mind, blacks love to partake in crime and violence, because they are black. You don't seem to understand that poor people in general have limited opportunities and many often get caught up with whatever their particular community values and views as the norm. On the South side of Chicago, the norm is gang banging, so many of the people in those communities, accept it as normal and the children grow up to view it as a way of life.

Since many from the inner city lack proper male role models, they only know what they see, and what the majority of people in their community engage in, and that's largely what they grow up to emulate and become.

If the children from the South side were placed in stable middle class homes that taught good values, the children would mostly grow up to mirror the values that were espoused by their parents and the larger community.
I've been saying similar things. It has alot to do with not being raised right, it has alot to do with having bad role models, or none at all. It has alot to do with many factors. One's race does not make a person commit crimes. That is why I brought up adjusting for factors like education, income, family life, and other issues.
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Chicago needs more Section 8 housing to spread the love into the nicer areas.
Why keep all the violence in just a few areas ?
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Chicago needs more Section 8 housing to spread the love into the nicer areas.
Why keep all the violence in just a few areas ?
Interesting to see you're making light of all the murders.
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Chicago needs more Section 8 housing to spread the love into the nicer areas.
Why keep all the violence in just a few areas ?
Start with Rahm Emanuel and Pat Quinn's neighborhoods.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Chicago needs more Section 8 housing to spread the love into the nicer areas.
Why keep all the violence in just a few areas ?
Actually it has been proven that it is better to decentralize low income housing to prevent a ghetto effect.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:57 PM
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Actually it has been proven that it is better to decentralize low income housing to prevent a ghetto effect.
But it won't happen that easily. Alot of people who live in middle-upper income areas don't want low income housing around them.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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But it won't happen that easily. Alot of people who live in middle-upper income areas don't want low income housing around them.
Oh it never does, once poverty areas are established it is hard to change.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:59 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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But it won't happen that easily. Alot of people who live in middle-upper income areas don't want low income housing around them.
There's a reason for that; two sets of rules for those Capital Hill crooks and their elitist pals, and then us serfs of middle- and lower-incomes.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There's a reason for that; two sets of rules for those Capital Hill crooks and their elitist pals, and then us serfs of middle- and lower-incomes.
I think you might be talking about something completely different.

Actually there is a way to solve centralized poverty and that is through housing cost credits. In NYC, low income people are given a month amount for housing, it is up to them if they want to spend more of their own money for better housing, but it allows them to live anywhere they want in the city provided it matches what they can afford in rent. That way it eliminates the need for too much low income housing and allows people to live in more places without having to live in centralized ghettos.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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I think you might be talking about something completely different.

Actually there is a way to solve centralized poverty and that is through housing cost credits. In NYC, low income people are given a month amount for housing, it is up to them if they want to spend more of their own money for better housing, but it allows them to live anywhere they want in the city provided it matches what they can afford in rent. That way it eliminates the need for too much low income housing and allows people to live in more places without having to live in centralized ghettos.
I'm talking about guys like King Bloomberg, Rahm Emanuel and men of that ilk who live in gated, guarded (heavily) communities.
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