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Old 05-21-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Most high schoolers are committing these with mom or dad’s guns.

I think that’s an easy pipeline to shut down.
Charge them!

 
Old 05-21-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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It's not a left or right thing. It's a parent thing. Human beings are hard-wired to protect their young, and the one thing that unites both sides of this argument is the overwhelming desire to prevent our children from suffering harm. School shootings terrify us because we are separated from our children for a significant part of the day while they are in class. We trust that environment to be safe, and when it's not, it rouses our most primitive selves. Parents are capable of extraordinary acts when their children are threatened.
Yes, exactly!
 
Old 05-21-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I notice something. Nobody on here is advocating profiling possible shooters. Is it because "real" Americans will never profile their own?
 
Old 05-21-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I notice something. Nobody on here is advocating profiling possible shooters. Is it because "real" Americans will never profile their own?
I can tell you that in the case of the shooting at one of our local high schools, the young man who did it was on the radar of the SRO, the security team, and the high school counseling staff. Unfortunately, both he and a young woman he shot both died. Profiling is useless unless it leads to concrete preventative actions, and that's a path littered with legal landmines.
 
Old 05-21-2018, 08:47 PM
 
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I notice something. Nobody on here is advocating profiling possible shooters. Is it because "real" Americans will never profile their own?

I don't think anyone here would oppose such profiling. I think it is assumed that everyone is looking for the signs.
 
Old 05-21-2018, 08:50 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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We protect our military bases, airports, banks, and George Soros' house by people with guns and you hardly see a mass shooting at those venues.

But concerts, schools, movie theaters, churches have little to no security which makes it an easy target for mass shooters.

Maybe it's time we need more armed guards or more open carry permits.

For further reading
The Pagourtzis massacre appears to be a very rare case where the person had not exhibited severe mental illness. As for armed guards, very few people actually die in school shootings. Less students, much less students, die that way than driving or injured by cars driven by other teens. Time to get a sense of proportion.
 
Old 05-21-2018, 09:21 PM
 
Location: My House
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Charge them!
I’m good with that.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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In that case, the security checkpoints would need to be at the entrances to campus. It would be expensive as you'd probably have to construct a waiting area, security structure, and long walkway from there to actual buildings. It would depend on the specific layout.
Most of the larger suburban high schools have a huge campus. My high school wasn't that large but did have several buildings. And a regulation sized small football stadium plus a practice field which was even larger. As well as a city street that intersected at one edge of the campus plus a parking lot.

Enclosing all that would cost. A lot. Most local communities just don't have the money, many of them have a tough enough time even paying the staffs at the schools. And to do this nationwide? Forget it.

A more practical and cheaper solution is to simply implement strict gun controls. As a starter, and then go from there.
 
Old 05-21-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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https://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/...t-two-schools/

Mas, is one of the top firearm's educators in the country
 
Old 05-21-2018, 10:22 PM
 
Location: My House
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https://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/...t-two-schools/

Mas, is one of the top firearm's educators in the country
He is not a top educator of high school students and I think that his editorial perspective is flawed.

I'm all for having resource officers in schools, but teachers don't get paid enough to play cop while they teach.
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