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Old 07-25-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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I actually do agree with this believe it or not.
The temperature "evidence" is not support for climate change.

I do believe that climate change, and that man-made climate change, is a thing, however.

Here is my next question: for those who think it is "possible" that climate change is man-made, even if you are not 100% on board with the idea, why not err on the side of caution? Why not do everything you can? It's not that big of a deal to throw your empty wine bottles in a separate bin, or trade your 1980 Ford F250 in for a Focus, is it? If there is only a 1% chance that doing these things mean that your grandkids get to have an earth to live on, then why not?
How far are you/we willing to go? I don't think trading in a vehicle or separating one's garbage is going to make much of a difference - in fact, recycling has been shown to actually add to carbon in the atmosphere, since it is an industrial process (I do recycle btw, as it's free to do so vs having a larger bin for more trash from my city).

To make an actual difference as to how much CO2 we are releasing, we would all have to stop driving, flying, using energy, etc. Are we willing to do that? I think people are willing to go only so far, but they're not going to give up the conveniences of life.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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PARIS/LONDON (Reuters) - "Soaring temperatures broke records in Germany, France, Britain and the Netherlands on Thursday as a heatwave gripped Europe for the second time in a month, in what scientists said were becoming more frequent events as the planet heats up.

“There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record. This heatwave is exactly in line with climate change predictions,” said Dr Karsten Haustein at the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

Peter Inness, senior research fellow at the University of Reading, said: “The fact that so many recent years have had very high summer temperatures both globally and across Europe is very much in line with what we expect from man-made global warming.”

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108 F in Paris. Absolutely unheard of. Manmade climate change is no longer an abstract concept, it is here, it is now, and it's causing tremendous property damage, lost crops and deaths worldwide with increasing frequency.

Do you own a big hammer ? If so, you might as well take it and hit yourself in the head a few times because the climate change deniers will make you go crazy, if you try to educate them. No matter what happens, they will never believe it.

Sad, isn't it ?
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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PARIS/LONDON (Reuters) - "Soaring temperatures broke records in Germany, France, Britain and the Netherlands on Thursday as a heatwave gripped Europe for the second time in a month, in what scientists said were becoming more frequent events as the planet heats up.

“There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record. This heatwave is exactly in line with climate change predictions,” said Dr Karsten Haustein at the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

Peter Inness, senior research fellow at the University of Reading, said: “The fact that so many recent years have had very high summer temperatures both globally and across Europe is very much in line with what we expect from man-made global warming.”

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108 F in Paris. Absolutely unheard of. Manmade climate change is no longer an abstract concept, it is here, it is now, and it's causing tremendous property damage, lost crops and deaths worldwide with increasing frequency.
That's weather, not climate.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Mesa AZ
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When you sell your soul to the devil as most of Europe has God often gives you a little preview of your ultimate destiny. I shudder to think of the !s!amic hellhole it will be in a few decades.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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PARIS/LONDON (Reuters) - "Soaring temperatures broke records in Germany, France, Britain and the Netherlands on Thursday as a heatwave gripped Europe for the second time in a month, in what scientists said were becoming more frequent events as the planet heats up.

“There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record. This heatwave is exactly in line with climate change predictions,” said Dr Karsten Haustein at the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

Peter Inness, senior research fellow at the University of Reading, said: “The fact that so many recent years have had very high summer temperatures both globally and across Europe is very much in line with what we expect from man-made global warming.”

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108 F in Paris. Absolutely unheard of. Manmade climate change is no longer an abstract concept, it is here, it is now, and it's causing tremendous property damage, lost crops and deaths worldwide with increasing frequency.
If “There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record," isn't there a 50-60% chance it won't be. And what about all the previous 'warmest' months; were they the result of man-made global warming ?
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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If “There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record," isn't there a 50-60% chance it won't be. And what about all the previous 'warmest' months; were they the result of man-made global warming ?
No, they were the result of these habitual liars cooking the books.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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Do you own a big hammer ? If so, you might as well take it and hit yourself in the head a few times because the climate change deniers will make you go crazy, if you try to educate them. No matter what happens, they will never believe it.

Sad, isn't it ?

According to polls taken over the years, climate change is gaining acceptance while climate denialism is slowly shrinking. As more extreme events occur the fence-straddlers will be convinced and will join the AGW ranks. The deniers will never completely go away, they'll be reduced to a fringe group, like the Flat Earthers.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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PARIS/LONDON (Reuters) - "Soaring temperatures broke records in Germany, France, Britain and the Netherlands on Thursday as a heatwave gripped Europe for the second time in a month, in what scientists said were becoming more frequent events as the planet heats up.

“There is a 40-50% chance that this will be the warmest July on record. This heatwave is exactly in line with climate change predictions,” said Dr Karsten Haustein at the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

Peter Inness, senior research fellow at the University of Reading, said: “The fact that so many recent years have had very high summer temperatures both globally and across Europe is very much in line with what we expect from man-made global warming.”

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108 F in Paris. Absolutely unheard of. Manmade climate change is no longer an abstract concept, it is here, it is now, and it's causing tremendous property damage, lost crops and deaths worldwide with increasing frequency.
And if it is AGW, NOTHING can stop it short of exterminating a few billion people.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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According to polls taken over the years, climate change is gaining acceptance while climate denialism is slowly shrinking. As more extreme events occur the fence-straddlers will be convinced and will join the AGW ranks. The deniers will never completely go away, they'll be reduced to a fringe group, like the Flat Earthers.
Tell me, how are you going to stop the billions of people who want air conditioning from getting it. How about the billions who want an automobile?

Are you planning to bomb third world areas that long for living your lifestyle?
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Hmm..looks like the PARIS climate accords aint working. I am so glad Trump refused to sign up for that scam..
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