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Old 05-23-2008, 09:52 PM
 
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One can be a bigot against a person of another race. But one cannot be a "bigot" against an abnormal lifestyle.
Correct!

Terms like "bigot" are thrown around and used to attack people. Even though the term is INCORRECTLY used against that person.

Using their flawed "logic". If I disagree with the behavior and lifestyle of a pedophile, then am I a bigot?

Of course not. To find a behavior wrong does NOT make one bigot.

 
Old 05-23-2008, 09:53 PM
 
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...And God actually told you this personally...?
Yes He has. He actually STATED IT in the Bible.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Ca Cap & Central Ca
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It is amazing that with all of the problems that our nation is facing that we WASTE so much time, energy and money to decide if fellow human citizens are worthy of fundamental rights guaranteed by equal protection under the Law. God Bless CAlifornia!
Well said! Thank you!
 
Old 05-23-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Correct!

Terms like "bigot" are thrown around and used to attack people. Even though the term is INCORRECTLY used against that person.

Using their flawed "logic". If I disagree with the behavior and lifestyle of a pedophile, then am I a bigot?

Of course not. To find a behavior wrong does NOT make one bigot.
being a pedo is different than being a homosexual... a pedo is someone that wishes to prey upon children who are not of legal consent for sexual intercourse.. two adults who are participating in consentual sex is a whole different ball game.. being against someone who preys on the innocent is not being a bigot.. its standing up for the weak and children... being against two people who are adults and are acting upon their inherent attraction for one another DOES make you a bigot.. because nobody is being hurt or preyed upon.. you simply just do not like them or are against them because of who they are and their attraction for one another... BIG DIFFERENCE...
 
Old 05-23-2008, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Yes He has. He actually STATED IT in the Bible.
what makes you think god wrote the bible? how can you prove that? we could all sit around and write crap down as if we were god or KNOW what "god" wants... and perhaps some ignorant society will get ahold of it 2000 years later and make it truth....
if you can't find the truth... make it up..... seems to be good enough to spoon feed the likes of you in what to believe... if only you'd question the bible and its authenticity as much as you question everything else you don't agree with...
 
Old 05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
 
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Gee, kwfl, I'd suggest that you not be born gay then.
It's only unacceptable to you, not to millions of others.
Are you against all people who are not exactly like you?
Better hope that you don't have a child who is born gay, either.
Or would you hate them, too?
Using your "logic" then if a person is born a serial killer or pedophile, should they be allowed to continue in their acts because they are "born that way".

Not all behaviors are learned. If they are "genetic", that does not mean we should allow them free reign to express their "genetic" traits. Should a pedophile, who was born a pedophile, be allowed to rape and molest 5 year old boys and girls? They were "born that way" so why stop their behavior?

The reason is that their behavior is DESTRUCTIVE and it destroys them and the people they victimize.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Using your "logic" then if a person is born a serial killer or pedophile, should they be allowed to continue in their acts because they are "born that way".

Not all behaviors are learned. If they are "genetic", that does not mean we should allow them free reign to express their "genetic" traits. Should a pedophile, who was born a pedophile, be allowed to rape and molest 5 year old boys and girls? They were "born that way" so why stop their behavior?

The reason is that their behavior is DESTRUCTIVE and it destroys them and the people they victimize.
again... those behaviours and examples are not relevant to homosexuals... you're totally out of context by relating it to them... and its clear you're premis is on the grounds that homosexuals are "sinning" The only thing destructive for being gay is the hatred from different groups in our society that wish to promote hate and intolerance of their love for one another...
what people feel and do to show that love is between those two people... you don't have to accept it... but you do have to tolerate it... because we all have to tolerate each other in this world...
gays aren't asking for acceptance.. they could care less what you think.. they just want their rights.. and the same respect of tolerance that they give to you and your family... what's good for the goose is good for the gander
 
Old 05-23-2008, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
One can be a bigot against a person of another race. But one cannot be a "bigot" against an abnormal lifestyle.
I disagree. People are bigoted against all manner of people who are not like themselves..For their religion, intelligence or lack of, if they are fat, homeless, do work you do not approve of...Etc. Etc.....

But for the sake of tender sensibilities would you rather I used the term homophobe, which means you have repressed homosexual tendencies ...It has to be one or the other because unless you are gay any rights gays achieve have no effect on you whatsoever.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 11:09 PM
 
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being a pedo is different than being a homosexual... a pedo is someone that wishes to prey upon children who are not of legal consent for sexual intercourse..
Both acts/behaviors (pedophile & homosexual) are destructive and evil behaviors.

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two adults who are participating in consentual sex is a whole different ball game.. being against someone who preys on the innocent is not being a bigot.. its standing up for the weak and children... being against two people who are adults and are acting upon their inherent attraction for one another DOES make you a bigot..
That is your "opinion" and nothing more. God has stated that homosexuality, adultery, etc, are evil and destroy the person both spiritually and physically.

Last month, a nationwide study was released. 1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD. In some areas, 1 in 2 had an STD. This is due to the moral decay of society. Sexual deviancy has ramifications (pregnancy, AIDS, STDs, emotional pain, psychological pain, etc).


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because nobody is being hurt or preyed upon.. you simply just do not like them or are against them because of who they are and their attraction for one another... BIG DIFFERENCE...
Once again, God says it is wrong, not me. People DO GET HURT, both physically and psychologically with sexual promiscuity.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Personally I think god should stay out of this issue altogether...I do notice that the bigots always seem to bring god into every argument...I can only conclude that religion creates and condones bigotry.

Lbear ....All young people have sex...They have always had sex, and it has nothing whatever to do with gay marriage.
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