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Funny how heterosexuals can have their pick of any of the 50 states and have equality in each and every one of them but the gays and lesbians have only a few states to choose from.
Eh....one day equality will be in all 50 states. I can't wait.
You do have equality in all 50 states. No matter what state it is you have the right to lobby your representatives to make civil unions equal as with the laws in other states. That's your right: to lobby. Not to bring what are, in my opinion, frivolous lawsuits against something that shouldn't be changed.
What you can't do, is attempt to change a religious process to suit your needs. If you're female, you can marry a male. If you're male, you can marry a female. Those are your rights. If you are attempting to create a legal bond with a person of the same gender, you can create a civil union. If the civil union laws in your state do not satisfy what you want, you can (A) lobby to change them or (B) go to a state that does.
At the end of the day, I still have not heard a valid argument against civil unions that hasn't been either debunked or misdirected, and I'm still back to the same presumption: people want to be able to use the word "married" regardless of what the basis of the term is. Which is not a valid argument in a court of law. Could you imagine if a bunch of nurses said "We want to be called doctors because we practice medicine!!!" It's silly.
You do have equality in all 50 states. No matter what state it is you have the right to lobby your representatives to make civil unions equal as with the laws in other states. That's your right: to lobby. Not to bring what are, in my opinion, frivolous lawsuits against something that shouldn't be changed.
What you can't do, is attempt to change a religious process to suit your needs. If you're female, you can marry a male. If you're male, you can marry a female. Those are your rights. If you are attempting to create a legal bond with a person of the same gender, you can create a civil union. If the civil union laws in your state do not satisfy what you want, you can (A) lobby to change them or (B) go to a state that does.
At the end of the day, I still have not heard a valid argument against civil unions that hasn't been either debunked or misdirected, and I'm still back to the same presumption: people want to be able to use the word "married" regardless of what the basis of the term is. Which is not a valid argument in a court of law. Could you imagine if a bunch of nurses said "We want to be called doctors because we practice medicine!!!" It's silly.
Another ridiculous post! heterosexual marriage is only of value to heterosexual people. How childish to call a marriage a "civil union" simply because of the preference of the wording.
In this country we are supposed to be afforded freedom of religion, as well as freedom from religion. Our society got away from a theocracy many years ago, yet religious fanatics want to enforce their religion on other people, particularly when it suits them. If same sex marriage is permitted it does not affect you. What we should be voting for in this country is the right to tax churches since they do lobby government.
You will be waiting for a long time. Gaydom is outlawed in my great state. That will never change, it was voted in with an overwhelming majority.
Y'all just need to stay in Vermont or better yet California, no gays need apply here.
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Funny how heterosexuals can have their pick of any of the 50 states and have equality in each and every one of them but the gays and lesbians have only a few states to choose from.
Eh....one day equality will be in all 50 states. I can't wait.
What you can't do, is attempt to change a religious process to suit your needs. If you're female, you can marry a male. If you're male, you can marry a female. Those are your rights. If you are attempting to create a legal bond with a person of the same gender, you can create a civil union.
The problem is, you can't legislate religious morality, especially when it discriminates against a group of people. That, and Christianity isn't the only religion that has marriage.
Marriage isn't necessarily a religious process, but more of a social process.
You do have equality in all 50 states. No matter what state it is you have the right to lobby your representatives to make civil unions equal as with the laws in other states. That's your right: to lobby. Not to bring what are, in my opinion, frivolous lawsuits against something that shouldn't be changed.
Yes African-Americans had sooo much success 'lobbying' for slavery to end and to stop school segregation.
The problem is, you can't legislate religious morality, especially when it discriminates against a group of people. That, and Christianity isn't the only religion that has marriage.
Marriage isn't necessarily a religious process, but more of a social process.
....Really amazing! Over 265 hits within 24 hours. You haters really need to get a life.
Are you kidding? They live for this stuff. The internet is where bigots can truly come together and feel like they're not alone. That's why there's so many of them here on this forum. The fact that they enjoy beating up on a minority like gays just shows how pathetic most of them are. They're probably the same types who enjoy kicking puppies.
What do expect from a group of minorities that have experienced their whole lives how being gay is wrong, having same sex dating is wrong, that it's against Jesus and that you will burn in hell for it, and other negative and destructive comments and attitudes......on top of that gays and lesbians do not have the strong and accepting support system that most heterosexual people do. So how can you expect their marriages to be perfect with they are surrounded with complete negativity?
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