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I find it ironic that the Left, who denounce religion as "superstition", are so determined to get marriage acceptable for gays. Marriage is, of course, a religious ceremony. In a purely biblical sense, homosexuality is frowned upon. More importantly, the Church as an institution is against gay marriage. Why are they so determined to include gays in a ceremony in an organization that they do not believe in and condems them? What is wrong with a simple civil union?
I guess you assume that ALL Christians are against marriage equality?
Not everyone wants to get married in a church and if/when marriage equality is in all 50 states, people will not be clamoring to marry in the churches.
Would you trade your marriage for a "simple civil union"?
Gays and lesbians are not fighting for a ceremony, we are fighting for legal recognition of our relationships in the form of marriage.
I think it would have been the popular vote had not the LDS spent so much money fighting for it an muddying the issue. Most people don't care if gay's marry, but they have strokes when you tell them their parental rights will be taken away and kids will be taught about gay sex in kindergarten. Which is exactly how it was presented on every street corner in CA.
It's being done regardless of the title marriage. Pub skool is already indoctrinating.
YOur assertion that most people don't care if gay's marry is clearly false.
hahahahahah....this post is hilarious. you are talking about exactly what acorn did by registering uneducated people so they could vote for obama. i bet you don't have a problem with that do you? didn't think so!!
Ooh but wait, you forgot the best part.. ACORN used taxpayer money to scare people into voting for more taxes.. California opponents to gay marriage put their own money where their mouth was..
I guess you assume that ALL Christians are against marriage equality?
Not everyone wants to get married in a church and if/when marriage equality is in all 50 states, people will not be clamoring to marry in the churches.
Would you trade your marriage for a "simple civil union"?
Gays and lesbians are not fighting for a ceremony, we are fighting for legal recognition of our relationships in the form of marriage.
Originally Posted by State of Vermont, as an example:
Parties to a civil union will have all the same benefits, protections and responsibilities under Vermont law as are granted to spouses in a marriage, and will be responsible for the support of one another to the same degree and in the same manner as prescribed under law for married persons.
The following is a non-exclusive list of some of the legal benefits, protections and responsibilities of spouses which will apply in like manner to parties to a civil union:
laws relating to title, tenure, descent and distribution, intestate succession, waiver of will, survivorship, or other incidents of the acquisition, ownership, or transfer, inter vivos or at death, of real or personal property, including eligibility to hold real and personal property as tenants by the entirety;
causes of action related to or dependent upon spousal status, including an action for wrongful death, emotional distress, loss of consortium, dramshop, or other torts or actions under contracts reciting, related to, or dependent upon spousal status;
probate law and procedure, including nonprobate transfer;
adoption law and procedure;
group insurance for state employees and continuing care contracts under;
spouse abuse programs;
prohibitions against discrimination based upon marital status;
victim's compensation rights;
workers' compensation benefits;
laws relating to emergency and nonemergency medical care and treatment, hospital visitation and notification, including the Patient's Bill of Rights and the Nursing Home Residents' Bill of Rights;
terminal care documents, and durable power of attorney for health care execution and revocation;
family leave benefits;
public assistance benefits under state law;
laws relating to taxes imposed by the state or a municipality;
laws relating to immunity from compelled testimony and the marital communication privilege;
the homestead rights of a surviving spouse and homestead property tax allowance;
laws relating to loans to veterans;
the definition of family farmer;
laws relating to the making, revoking and objecting to anatomical gifts by others;
state pay for military service;
application for absentee ballot;
family landowner rights to fish and hunt;
legal requirements for assignment of wages; and
affirmance of relationship.
Google amazes me sometimes. Need something more definitive?
Seems to me to be a simple decision. Move to Vermont. Don't attempt to change California. Seems crude, but my point is, you do have options. The voters have already spoken on the issue. If you want to press further, press to expand the allowances of a civil union to mirror Vermont. That has a stronger likelihood of getting passed than trying to submit drastic change. "over 1,000 laws" need not be changed - do a simple amendment to the civil union law, just like Vermont has done. Hell, they can copy and paste it for all I care.
Ooh but wait, you forgot the best part.. ACORN used taxpayer money to scare people into voting for more taxes.. California opponents to gay marriage put their own money where their mouth was..
The Mormon Church made huge contributions to the Yes on 8 Campaign....
Seems to me to be a simple decision. Move to Vermont. Don't attempt to change California. Seems crude, but my point is, you do have options. The voters have already spoken on the issue. If you want to press further, press to expand the allowances of a civil union to mirror Vermont. That has a stronger likelihood of getting passed than trying to submit drastic change. "over 1,000 laws" need not be changed - do a simple amendment to the civil union law, just like Vermont has done. Hell, they can copy and paste it for all I care.
Hmmm....so all the gays should just move to Vermont?
Hmmm.........
The Mormon Church made huge contributions to the Yes on 8 Campaign....
Californians should return the favor and contribute to the LDS church (mormons).
At least they put their money where their mouth is.
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