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Old 07-10-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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LOL. what country was she from? That's why you 'get what you pay for' is usually true.
hahah she was from China, just texted my mom and asked her
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Because its their life, why do you care what their Doing? It doesn't concern you.
It is an internet message board, people give opinions all the time about the actions of others. The thread was started by someone in favor of "mail order brides", others just have differing opinions.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:25 PM
 
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Some years ago, my good friend and I were going to start a business using our social networks in Europe and Egypt to begin "offshoring" wives to American men. This is obviously nothing new, but why is it that with the supposed frustration guys in this country feel with dating women, that they are not exclusively seeking to "offshore" love just as businesses offshore IT staff? Is it a logistical issue? Are men worried that they're simply a gateway into this country? Is there simply a missed connection on the advantages of doing this? I'm happily married to my American woman, but I know many American men who are frustrated at the dating scene with either being cheated on, an (in their eyes) overly demanding and manipulative woman, etc. I also know many offshored marriages and it seems that culturally there is a better gender role match up between man and woman.

I'm looking for deep discourse here, not an catty argument on why American men aren't "real enough" for American women.
Well, you sort of answered your own question. That American women shame the hell out men for dating foreign women so many don't consider it an option for fear of being socially ostracized. I've seen this sort of 'shaming' from other sectors of American society. Having lived overseas for much of my life, I'd recommend that men who are seriously interested in getting married and having a family seriously consider a foreign wife, either through an agency or if possible taking some time off to spend looking for a wife overseas. That doesn't mean men still won't face a risk in marriage due to punitive divorce, alimony, custody, and even paternity laws here in the US even if they marry a woman from overseas. It's just that you're odds are a little better than marrying an American woman.

Does that mean that there aren't American women who aren't suitable? No, not at all. It's just that there are fewer and fewer of them. All the foreign woman route is, is another option and should be seriously considered. Both for the benefits(successful marriage and kids) and risks(used for a green card).
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Well they've got a leg up intellectually on at least two posters here, apparently...
If you were attempting to insult me, I've admitted on here many a time that I am not the brightest bulb in the box.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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if you were attempting to insult me, i've admitted on here many a time that i am not the brightest bulb in the box.
If you think this then don't go spouting off about how bright other people's bulbs are.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Well, you sort of answered your own question. That American women shame the hell out men for dating foreign women so many don't consider it an option for fear of being socially ostracized. I've seen this sort of 'shaming' from other sectors of American society. Having lived overseas for much of my life, I'd recommend that men who are seriously interested in getting married and having a family seriously consider a foreign wife, either through an agency or if possible taking some time off to spend looking for a wife overseas. That doesn't mean men still won't face a risk in marriage due to punitive divorce, alimony, custody, and even paternity laws here in the US even if they marry a woman from overseas. It's just that you're odds are a little better than marrying an American woman.

Does that mean that there aren't American women who aren't suitable? No, not at all. It's just that there are fewer and fewer of them. All the foreign woman route is, is another option and should be seriously considered. Both for the benefits(successful marriage and kids) and risks(used for a green card).
Thanks for the insightful information. Actually, what's interesting is that on the same day of my original postings, a foreign lady (with a posting history going back 2 years as I checked if it was a fake response) PMed me asking me genuine questions and wanted to begin a dialogue on what American men want and how to meet a nice American guy. I haven't written back yet, but it was interesting to get nonetheless.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I can see this thread has devolved into the following predictable responses:

"Pathetic"
"Socially inept"
"Ugly"
"Fat"
"Desperate"

The other poster was right. The only defense for some is social ostracizing. While I'm not too worried a legitimate online business would be threatened with physical violence, it certainly would bring the haters out of mommy's basement.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It makes sense.
Why else would you have to 'order' a bride?

Why have to buy something most people can get just for being themselves?

Same reason people scoff at men who have to pay for sex. What's the matter with you that you can't get it yourself?

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Old 07-11-2012, 06:45 AM
 
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Some years ago, my good friend and I were going to start a business using our social networks in Europe and Egypt to begin "offshoring" wives to American men. This is obviously nothing new, but why is it that with the supposed frustration guys in this country feel with dating women, that they are not exclusively seeking to "offshore" love just as businesses offshore IT staff? Is it a logistical issue? Are men worried that they're simply a gateway into this country? Is there simply a missed connection on the advantages of doing this? I'm happily married to my American woman, but I know many American men who are frustrated at the dating scene with either being cheated on, an (in their eyes) overly demanding and manipulative woman, etc. I also know many offshored marriages and it seems that culturally there is a better gender role match up between man and woman.

I'm looking for deep discourse here, not an catty argument on why American men aren't "real enough" for American women.
Can you please explain to me why you think most men could afford mail order brides?
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:56 AM
 
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I am wondering about this notion that marrying a foreign woman for convenience carries less risk of divorce than marrying someone of your own culture, socioeconomic background and values for love.

Even if were somewhat true, it just seems very odd that any man would want to be legally bound for life to someone they don't love and who does not love them, just so they can be fairly sure that person won't be able to leave them.
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