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Old 07-11-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I am wondering about this notion that marrying a foreign woman for convenience carries less risk of divorce than marrying someone of your own culture, socioeconomic background and values for love.

Even if were somewhat true, it just seems very odd that any man would want to be legally bound for life to someone they don't love and who does not love them, just so they can be fairly sure that person won't be able to leave them.
The type of guys who do this are usually narcissists and people with some serious issues so they can have complete control over the woman. There are horror stories that come from both ends here, you can see stories of women who come here and are abused by these guys, and then you get the guys who get screwed over. A very very small percentage is probably successful, can't negate that, but I'd give it less than 10%

A good reason not to do this, is because I don't even think it is legal to do, is it?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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That American women shame the hell out men for dating foreign women so many don't consider it an option for fear of being socially ostracized. I've seen this sort of 'shaming' from other sectors of American society. Having lived overseas for much of my life, I'd recommend that men who are seriously interested in getting married and having a family seriously consider a foreign wife, either through an agency or if possible taking some time off to spend looking for a wife overseas. It's just that you're odds are a little better than marrying an American woman.

Does that mean that there aren't American women who aren't suitable? No, not at all. It's just that there are fewer and fewer of them. All the foreign woman route is, is another option and should be seriously considered. Both for the benefits(successful marriage and kids) and risks(used for a green card).
I don't think anyone has a problem with men marrying foreign women when the process happens naturally....like someone meets a foreign student at the college they are studying at, etc. The mail order bride is a whole different concept though.

How are the odds better than marrying an American woman? How is it that there a fewer and fewer of them?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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This gives new meaning to the term "Offshore drilling".
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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I can see this thread has devolved into the following predictable responses:

"Pathetic"
"Socially inept"
"Ugly"
"Fat"
"Desperate"

The other poster was right. The only defense for some is social ostracizing. While I'm not too worried a legitimate online business would be threatened with physical violence, it certainly would bring the haters out of mommy's basement.
You don't think it is pathetic that people that would want to use such a service would marginalize American woman as unsuitable in their rationale to use such a service?
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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I can see this thread has devolved into the following predictable responses:

"Pathetic"
"Socially inept"
"Ugly"
"Fat"
"Desperate"

The other poster was right. The only defense for some is social ostracizing. While I'm not too worried a legitimate online business would be threatened with physical violence, it certainly would bring the haters out of mommy's basement.
It's like I said dude, people will police the lives of other grown people more then they will their own children.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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I can see this thread has devolved into the following predictable responses:

"Pathetic"
"Socially inept"
"Ugly"
"Fat"
"Desperate"

The other poster was right. The only defense for some is social ostracizing. While I'm not too worried a legitimate online business would be threatened with physical violence, it certainly would bring the haters out of mommy's basement.
I haven't read the entire thread, but what do you expect? You will be judged. Sometimes it will be good, other times not so much. That's life. Not only will you be judged based on how socially apt you are, but a host of other qualities.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I haven't read the entire thread, but what do you expect? You will be judged. Sometimes it will be good, other times not so much. That's life. Not only will you be judged based on how socially apt you are, but a host of other qualities.
I would be perfectly willing to accept such lambasting if I was an offshore wife seeker. The topic of the thread, however, is "would an offshore business be effective?". People have diverted their attention to how "pathetic" the customer would be. So what? People are made fun of for eating McDonald's, for being NASCAR fans, for being only vegetarian. These people are considered "pathetic" by other social circles also. The responses are pretty predictable and boring.

Personally, I believe people are taking this too personally. Ever heard of "it's nothing personal, it's just business"?
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You don't think it is pathetic that people that would want to use such a service would marginalize American woman as unsuitable in their rationale to use such a service?
If the client base were in their 30's, they have already pursued relationships with American women for at least 10 years of their life and were not successful. Thus, they have sought to expand their circle of potential mates and other dimensions of personality and culture.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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I would be perfectly willing to accept such lambasting if I was an offshore wife seeker. The topic of the thread, however, is "would an offshore business be effective?". People have diverted their attention to how "pathetic" the customer would be. So what? People are made fun of for eating McDonald's, for being NASCAR fans, for being only vegetarian. These people are considered "pathetic" by other social circles also. The responses are pretty predictable and boring.

Personally, I believe people are taking this too personally. Ever heard of "it's nothing personal, it's just business"?
You started this thread in the relationships forum....start one in the business forum if you want to limit the discussion to business.

It is a message board...which is all about giving opinions.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The type of guys who do this are usually narcissists and people with some serious issues so they can have complete control over the woman. There are horror stories that come from both ends here, you can see stories of women who come here and are abused by these guys, and then you get the guys who get screwed over. A very very small percentage is probably successful, can't negate that, but I'd give it less than 10%
Again, the interview process is crucial, on both sides of the pond. An offshore business would need on-the-ground matchmakers in all foreign countries it was operating in. That was the impetus for my business idea. My friend and I have good friends in countries that have women desiring American men, for a better overall life. It's a win-win situation. The American guy gets what he wants, and the foreign woman is taken away from the inferior man pool over there.
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