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I'm fine with reading census data (though CDC data on this is better, and not all states report each year), though you pretty clearly are adept at interpreting statistics.
I'm perfectly fine with my reality. You're the one who isn't happy. I have no problem with women, the current system, marriage, dating, any of it. Works perfectly fine for me. I live a happy life. Thank you very much.
Pretty much my point too.
The bitterness and anger literally drip off of some of these people.
Life is too short to make yourself so damn miserable.
When the new divorce formula kicks in, many women, especially young women who outearn men, are going to simply avoid marriage. Those who are already married are statistically the higher earners in over 30% of marriages now, which means MANY more women will be "taken to the cleaners" than in the past.
Marriage is dead in Colorado, killed by the divorce laws, and the divorce laws here are coming soon to a state near you, if the Democrats have their way.
It's just my opinion, but I don't think most people who get married are thinking about divorce. They are thinking about being married and living happily ever after. I certainly didn't think about divorce until the day my no Ex said, "Marriage isn't working for me anymore, I want a divorce." So I don't see divorce laws significantly effecting marriage rates.
But I would be curious to see "re-marriage" rates for Colorado. I think that's where you would see a difference. While I never thought of divorce before, now that I've been though it, I never want to go though it again and it makes me marriage shy (not sure I ever want to go though that again). And my Ex and I wrote our own divorce decree (we mediated everything).
Listen, if you don't want to get married, don't get married. No need for justification, or to get internet support, no need to convince others.
I've never heard of any woman feeling she was owed marriage, I know divorced couples where the women do not get alimony because they have careers of their own. I know men who want to get married. Funny thing is I don't make threads trying to convince anyone of these examples.
Just live your life how you want.
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Listen, if you don't want to get married, don't get married. No need for justification, or to get internet support, no need to convince others.
I've never heard of any woman feeling she was owed marriage, I know divorced couples where the women do not get alimony because they have careers of their own. I know men who want to get married. Funny thing is I don't make threads trying to convince anyone of these examples.
Just live your life how you want.
I think it's hard for some of these dudes to imagine a situation where they actually like and care about a woman (and she likes and cares about him,) and where relationships aren't adversarial and competitive. That's okay though, because if they don't want marriage, no one's holding a gun to their head.
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I think it's hard for some of these dudes to imagine a situation where they actually like and care about a woman, and where relationships aren't adversarial and competitive. That's okay though, because if they don't want marriage, no one's holding a gun to their head.
It's crazy some of the things discussed on this forum: it's all about levels, I don't want a woman that has done XYZ in bed with someone else, I want someone younger without expectations, I better give the kida a paternity test just in case!, I want someone without desires/standards in a mate, I'm afraid someone will take my money, I want someone to know their place. And then they read books/forums about "picking up" women as if talking to a woman and making a connection is like studying for a foreign language.
I seriously thought these lines of thinking no longer existed in society. I haven't run into anyone that thought like this for decades.
I think it's hard for some of these dudes to imagine a situation where they actually like and care about a woman, and where relationships aren't adversarial and competitive. That's okay though, because if they don't want marriage, no one's holding a gun to their head.
This. It's almost as if these above described men want to be dragged kicking and screaming to City Hall or the preacher...what healthy well-adjusted woman with good self esteem, would have time for that foolishness? "Hard To Get" was a game that didn't work very well when women were playing it...so now men are adopting it???
Maybe the real question is: Why do some men think women think they're owed marriage?
NO one owes you or me anything. I hope someday I will meet a great woman and not only will she be the mother of my children but my best friend and lover and life partner. It not easy being married so I have been told it is hard work some times.
Just right now i do not have much to offer a girl other then love. My life not in order I work a dead end job with no advancement other then treading water every day. On top of that a have been stressing out about not getting good grades or getting into the program I want it the most important thing in the world that I get in.
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