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You just did it again! I never said you were stupid Jeff. You just need to pay more attention to what is posted.
I will just assume that you have no answer, and are unwilling to admit you are wrong about anything, so yea, go ahead and move on. We wouldn't want to make you look any worse.
To be fair, you told him he lacks reading comprehension. The ability to comprehend what one is reading could be an indicator of intelligence, so to suggest one does not possess that ability could certainly be taken to say that they are stupid.
Love how people think Christians believe things for no reason as if our faith is nothing more than wishful thinking. I don't care if it is cliched or not. It really does take more faith to be an atheist.
From where you're sitting, I suppose you might think so.
Yet, for some bizarre reason, a reason so unfathomable that it has yet to be explained, even believers like yourself rely on reason, evidence, and science in every other area of your lives. It's only when it comes to worshiping tribal gods and having an unquestioning obedience to an ancient holy book when reason, evidence, and science suddenly becomes a "matter of faith."
Once you cross the line into religion, everything is turned upside down. There, in the twilight zone of religion, believing in things without evidence is the most logical thing to do but accepting as true that which possesses evidence is foolish.
You just did it again! I never said you were stupid Jeff. You just need to pay more attention to what is posted.
I will just assume that you have no answer, and are unwilling to admit you are wrong about anything, so yea, go ahead and move on. We wouldn't want to make you look any worse.
He admitted he was wrong about defending Josh Dugger, child molester, after Duggar admitted he also paid for hookers, cheated on his wife and was addicted to porn.
Of course if Duggar, who is getting sued by one of those hookers, not been exposed as a porn-loving adulterer Jeff would probably still be defending him. He would never been forced into admitting he was wrong. So he's certainly not going to admit he's wrong about Bibles being placed in state-owned hotel rooms. Especially since he's convinced himself people are not going to jump out of a 15th story window if they open the drawer in their hotel room and see a Bible.
(I honestly wish it were that easy. Unfortunately mental illness and depression aren't cured by the Bible.)
The founders certainly didn't want us to be forced, pressured and coerced into secularism which is exactly what atheists want. Atheists don't want equal respect for all religions. They want religion destroyed and buried.
This isn't about preventing a hotel from promoting Christianity. It's about a very small minority that harbors such hatred for the Word of God that they want it abolished from sight. My original argument stands. A physical book in a hotel drawer has ZERO affect on your life. OTOH it can and has prevented people from committing suicide.
In my experience in the US, there are plenty of fundies who want the christian equivalent of Sharia law. And THAT I just don't get.
You just did it again! I never said you were stupid Jeff. You just need to pay more attention to what is posted.
I will just assume that you have no answer, and are unwilling to admit you are wrong about anything, so yea, go ahead and move on. We wouldn't want to make you look any worse.
Telling me I need reading comprehension is essentially saying I am stupid. Really, what purpose does that comment serve beyond a slap in the face? "Oh thank you sir, I didn't realize my reading skills were bad." Is that how you would reply if someone told you the same thing?
Why should I waste my valuable time answering questions of someone who can't even show me the slightest bit of respect?
To be fair, you told him he lacks reading comprehension. The ability to comprehend what one is reading could be an indicator of intelligence, so to suggest one does not possess that ability could certainly be taken to say that they are stupid.
Yes, well, lacking reading comprehension can come from other things. Like being ADHD or seeing that you have no good answer. I am not saying Jeff is stupid, but he does need to start responding to the actual post, as opposed to responding with just something he wants to say that has nothing to do with the post. I believe he is doing it on purpose, which would not make him stupid, rather, it would mean that he has no good answer, so he is changing the goalposts.
The fact that I have asked him to respond twice now, and all he has come back with is, "No! You are a big meanie!" really tells me all I need to know. He has no response that won't make him look like a hypocrite.
For someone so firmly opposed to Christian conceptions of your perspective you seem quick to let Christians define things for you. Ven. S. Dhammika makes clear what is wrong with allowing Christians (including Noah Webster) to define what "worship" means:When you rip away the Dominionist obfuscation, worship is simply the practice of acknowledging something of ultimate value.
Whoa nelly. I actually asked the internet which gave me an incomplete definition. Interestingly merriam webster gave more complete definitions.
Telling me I need reading comprehension is essentially saying I am stupid. Really, what purpose does that comment serve beyond a slap in the face? "Oh thank you sir, I didn't realize my reading skills were bad." Is that how you would reply if someone told you the same thing?
Why should I waste my valuable time answering questions of someone who can't even show me the slightest bit of respect?
Ok Jeff, you want respect from a random internet poster? Try answering questions, or responding to posts with relevant answers or information. Instead of replying with something that doesn't address the post, or a non reply, actually respond.
I will take this moment to apologize to you. I am sorry that my post came off as saying you are stupid. That was not my intention. My intention was simply to tell you to really read the post, and respond to what was being said. Again, I apologize that my post came off as condescending or appearing that I think I am superior in intelligence. Again, this was not my intention.
Telling me I need reading comprehension is essentially saying I am stupid.
Wrong. People at all levels of intelligence can read something and not comprehend what it says. The SMART people, when clued in, go back and re-read the post....think about what it says.... and realize "Hey! I got that wrong. Good thing they let me know so I don't continue to look like a dufus."
Yes, well, lacking reading comprehension can come from other things. Like being ADHD or seeing that you have no good answer.
You refer to it later in your comment as "moving the goalposts". That's deflection, not a lack of reading comprehension.
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I am not saying Jeff is stupid, but he does need to start responding to the actual post, as opposed to responding with just something he wants to say that has nothing to do with the post.
Why? I think you're assuming that there is anything to be gained by engaging in the discussion with that level of integrity. From where I'm sitting, Dominionists' best practice is obstinance. Marketing science teaches you that even if your product has detriments and other weaknesses, you promote your strengths. Generally speaking, directly and clearly answering the challenges, such as those typically directed toward Dominionists, consistent with what those challenges are actually asking, would generally result in undercutting that which Dominionists typically wish to safeguard or promote.
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Whoa nelly. I actually asked the internet which gave me an incomplete definition. Interestingly merriam webster gave more complete definitions.
Indeed, and down around Definition #4 you get to what the word really means, at its core. And not coincidentally, around Definition #4 you reach a definition that is in no way incompatible with atheism.
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