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Old 11-20-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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The 14th Amendment doesn't say that we can't have religion in public life.
We're not talking about your public religious displays, though, so I'm not sure why you're trying to change the topic. Actually, check that, I know exactly why you're trying to change the topic away from something you're factually wrong about.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You did call a whale a large fish. You are very fortuanatly that you reside in Canada with us not having the death penalty for making such a huge error.
Was it a whale that supposedly swallowed Jonah? Not a big fishy?

Well then. That makes it believable!

But, I guess I made a biblical boo-boo.

I know! I'll stone myself.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Yet, you continue to argue as if you're a Constitutional expert! The fact is, the 14th Amendment does not create this mythical separation of church and state
No, it just extends it to state and local governments.

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Allowing Bibles to be handed out does not take anyone's rights away, nor does it create any kind of state religion.
Where is this coming from? Who is handing out which Bibles? Maybe you should start your own thread if you want to change the subject.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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Does "something going on" necessarily mean god?
It means Thor is real! All praise be to Thor, the One True God.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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Was it a whale that supposedly swallowed Jonah? Not a big fishy?

Well then. That makes it believable!

But, I guess I made a biblical boo-boo.

I know! I'll stone myself.

You have to wait, it is not legal yet
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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We're not talking about your public religious displays, though, so I'm not sure why you're trying to change the topic. Actually, check that, I know exactly why you're trying to change the topic away from something you're factually wrong about.
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I'm not talking about public religious displays, either. This is about religion in government--government employees taking part in religious events and displays. There is nothing that excludes it in the Constitution.
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No, it just extends it to state and local governments.
No. It really doesn't. There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution.
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Where is this coming from? Who is handing out which Bibles? Maybe you should start your own thread if you want to change the subject.
Did you read the OP? This thread is about the Gideons and free Bibles. And you say I am off-topic?
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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The founders certainly didn't want us to be forced, pressured and coerced into secularism which is exactly what atheists want.
If they didn't, why did they write secularism into the founding legal documents of this country? Your opinion is noted but it doesn't seem to line up with reality.

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A physical book in a hotel drawer has ZERO affect on your life.
You seem awfully worked up about something which has ZERO meaning. That's because you know it doesn't - if secularism wins here, it means another case where the government doesn't get to market your religious beliefs for you.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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If they didn't, why did they write secularism into the founding legal documents of this country? Your opinion is noted but it doesn't seem to line up with reality.
They didn't. In fact, they protected the rights of states to be able to have official state religions. They protected the rights of people to practice religion. They recognized that our rights are given by God.
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You seem awfully worked up about something which has ZERO meaning. That's because you know it doesn't - if secularism wins here, it means another case where the government doesn't get to market your religious beliefs for you.
Maybe we're all tired of whiny atheists being allowed to run amuck by the courts.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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I'm not talking about public religious displays, either.
Sure you were :

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The 14th Amendment doesn't say that we can't have religion in public life.
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No. It really doesn't. There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution.
Sure there is, right there in the first amendment.

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And you say I am off-topic?
Yes, because the topic isn't about people handing out bibles. It is about government facilities illegally endorsing the marketing of certain religious groups.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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They didn't.
Yes they did. See, Article 6, paragraph 3 for an easy example. Also amendment 1, but we already know you're trying to pretend that doesn't exist.

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Maybe we're all tired of whiny atheists being allowed to run amuck by the courts.
Name calling just makes it clear you have nothing of substance backing your case. Especially name calling based on falsehoods, like the false claim that only atheists care about enforcing the laws of this country.
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