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We have been down this road before. You admitted you cannot or will not offer medical proof of these claims. Somehow these things happened but not one of your doctors thought it noteworthy enough to enter the case in the medical journals. Everyone just shrugged their shoulders at multiple miraculous cures happening to you, and just went on their way without any curiousity about how a guy was miraculously healed multiple times.
And WHY would they? MEDICAL cures are what go in medical journals, not miracles. Get real. It wouldn't profit them and would expose them to certain ridicule of which most of them are way too proud to endure. I, on the other hand, frankly don't give a rats butt, I'll keep on telling my story for His glory, which I think is the very least I can do, considering He spared my life.
And no, some like the cancer are too far back for them to even have records probably as is the arm. However I offer the fact I am still here and I have two good arms, as all the proof I need, in addition to MANY witnesses. Peace
I love how god gives some painful ailments requiring they beg for a miraculous cure that's sometimes granted to a few chosen snowflakes.
Gota wonder why god is keeping so many snowflakes from entering paradise.
I didn't beg for anything. I told Him I knew He COULD heal me, but I need to know if He WOULD heal me, since He is sovereign. Once the answer was ascertained, I had to stand on faith, the faith of knowing He is a healer and the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
As for being a snowflake, the Word was written to EVERYONE. Not our fault if you choose to ignore our elder brother's last will and testament outlining what He left to YOU. Peace
Really? Well, I've got two for ya. My right elbow was crushed, it had a bone fragment near the surface of the skin you could feel and it sounded like someone chewing on marbles from across the room if I bent it, afterwards. The nerve canal was crushed, and I lost use of my hand. I went to the 5 top specialists for hands/arms in my area, one of the them world renowned, and they could offer no hope. BUT G-D and His Word did. I had a dream (yes a dream) that I was posting a red poster board at work with all 5 doctor's diagnosis on it, and below them in large black letters read, "BY HIS STRIPES, I AM HEALED." That day, I found I WAS. It was smooth as silk again. I went back to the one world renowned specialist, and he even told the insurance company over the phone that he had no explanation for it other than the one I gave him, which was, G-D HEALED ME.
Next, I was hemorrhaging with what turned out to be stage 4 cancer and an 8 centimeter tumor which had spread into my other organs. G-d healed me without any medical intervention whatsoever. The difficult part was convincing the doctor who kept taking biopsies after the fact (3) that all came back negative, each time my response being, "Praise You Lord, I'm healed!" in his office. There's a little more "miracle" to the story than this, but you're not going to believe it anyway, so this is condensed. And I have others....Peace
I didn't beg for anything. I told Him I knew He COULD heal me, but I need to know if He WOULD heal me, since He is sovereign. Once the answer was ascertained, I had to stand on faith, the faith of knowing He is a healer and the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
As for being a snowflake, the Word was written to EVERYONE. Not our fault if you choose to ignore our elder brother's last will and testament outlining what He left to YOU. Peace
Why did you asked to be healed instead of going with gods original plan of dying of cancer? You'd be at the feet of jesus right now, wouldn't you?
It gave you cancer for a reason, right? You think it gave you cancer to test you?
And WHY would they? MEDICAL cures are what go in medical journals, not miracles. Get real. It wouldn't profit them and would expose them to certain ridicule of which most of them are way too proud to endure. I, on the other hand, frankly don't give a rats butt, I'll keep on telling my story for His glory.
And no, some like the cancer are too far back for them to even have records probably as is the arm. However I offer the fact I am still here and I have two good arms, as all the proof I need, in addition to MANY witnesses. Peace
Actually you get real. Most Drs, especially from decades ago, are in some form Christian. I have numerous nurses in my family, and am friends with a few Drs. To claim that these folks would simply see this and make no attempt to understand it is pure nonsense. At the very least, it would have been known by Christian nurses and doctors, who could have told others of faith, and this would have gotten out, and the absolute proof of a miracle cure would have been provided, known about, and undeniable evidence shown.
Your claim assumes that all medical folks are atheists who would try to suppress this. In fact, it is the exact opposite . At the level of the family physician, most are believers to some degree, and seeing this would shake up a Dr who had faith himself but didnt accept these sorts of miracles. But it all passed along quietly with no notice from anyone.
In addition, nowadays when we have more ability to hear about , locate and provide evidence on the internet of these things, none seem to exist. Can you point today to any medically verifiable miracles like a retarded person having their brain healed, or someone with an severed spinal cord being made whole and walking? Or did this end at the point we can video these things, access medical records instantly on the net, and put this on the net for all to marvel at?
I am telling you that there is proof, and I outlined briefly in one sentence how to obtain it for yourself. What you do with that information is up to you. I have seen many people hit a brick wall over the years, stubborn to the end, be it cancer or some other life shattering occurrence and I'm telling you THAT is not the best time to be scrambling for help from the G-d you don't believe in. Had I not known Him and His Word and BELIEVED in His power to heal, I wouldn't be here talking to you now. Blessings to you...
I am sorry, but brainwashing into Faith is proof of nothing but the effectiveness of the whole religious trick.
I am also afraid that the way this Faith can help people who are up against it is also not proof that God is real. At best, it is, at the most, a case of Christianity being beneficial, true or not.
I can also say that atheism has made such a difference to my life, and if I didn't think it important to roll back the social scam of religion, I wouldn't be spending the time on it that I do.
Of course I know the power of your Faith, but, if it is a delusion brought about through misinterpretation of data (and I have personal experience of how easy that is to do) then the fact that you believe it utterly is proof of nothing.
I haven't even touched on the tangental matter of the truth (or not) of the Bible and religion, but just evidence for a god.
I meant to say by the way, that I am impressed by your wealth of posting and the lively discussions you get going. Glad to have you here.
P.s My typing is bad, right now, as the keyboard needs a relabel and I'm hitting wrong keys. I'll try to get that done today.
It's not about "us" being more "special", there are a lot of factors that enter into obtaining a healing sometimes, and the top one is that He is sovereign. Peace
It's a Catch 22 Situation! It does boggle the mind...but since a 'final' position (for better or for worse) has to be taken, one has to decide using his/her intelligence, a good sense of conviction, and honesty, whether or not presented Evidence is valid or not. Can presented Evidence be verified in an unambiguous manner? If it can't, why should one accept or be convinced by said Evidence? These are pertinent questions which partly determine what "position(s)/stance(s)" an individual takes on Atheism, Theism, Agnosticism and the like.
Yes, one really has to choose. Evidence and reason, or faith. And if Faith - which one? And as soon as you start to ask that question (rather than ignore it) one is arguing on evidence and trying to reason. In which case one should use the manual and not just make it up, or you will never get it doing the job properly.
This is another catch 22, and the catch 2 is rather like the Gordian knot. the solution -take a sword to it.
Where theist thought leads to a logical paradox an self contradiction, one has the choice, to sideline it in favour of Faith that it makes sense to God, or begin to follow the path of reason bit by bit, revising the beliefs - and I see this happen, but each changed position is believed to be right on on Faith. And some become "agnostics" (irreligious theists) or go all the way.
Actually you get real. Most Drs, especially from decades ago, are in some form Christian. I have numerous nurses in my family, and am friends with a few Drs. To claim that these folks would simply see this and make no attempt to understand it is pure nonsense. At the very least, it would have been known by Christian nurses and doctors, who could have told others of faith, and this would have gotten out, and the absolute proof of a miracle cure would have been provided, known about, and undeniable evidence shown.
Your claim assumes that all medical folks are atheists who would try to suppress this. In fact, it is the exact opposite . At the level of the family physician, most are believers to some degree, and seeing this would shake up a Dr who had faith himself but didnt accept these sorts of miracles. But it all passed along quietly with no notice from anyone.
In addition, nowadays when we have more ability to hear about , locate and provide evidence on the internet of these things, none seem to exist. Can you point today to any medically verifiable miracles like a retarded person having their brain healed, or someone with an severed spinal cord being made whole and walking? Or did this end at the point we can video these things, access medical records instantly on the net, and put this on the net for all to marvel at?
First of all, this happened 31 years ago, and as I said, I have MANY witnesses. And my doctor was not a Christian. You have to understand that in my circles, this is not unusual. I know of many people who have been healed of various things, including cancer.
Yeah, as a matter of fact, I do know a guy who lost his entire frontal lobe from a car battery blowing up in his face and G-d somehow healed him. He now creates websites in 8 languages. Then there's also the miracle He did for my son who sustained 4 types of brain injuries and was as good as dead.
How about you post your medical history and personal information on the internet? Peace
I am sorry, but brainwashing into Faith is proof of nothing but the effectiveness of the whole religious trick.
I am also afraid that the way this Faith can help people who are up against it is also not proof that God is real. At best, it is, at the most, a case of Christianity being beneficial, true or not.
I can also say that atheism has made such a difference to my life, and if I didn't think it important to roll back the social scam of religion, I wouldn't be spending the time on it that I do.
Of course I know the power of your Faith, but, if it is a delusion brought about through misinterpretation of data (and I have personal experience of how easy that is to do) then the fact that you believe it utterly is proof of nothing.
I haven't even touched on the tangental matter of the truth (or not) of the Bible and religion, but just evidence for a god.
I meant to say by the way, that I am impressed by your wealth of posting and the lively discussions you get going. Glad to have you here.
P.s My typing is bad, right now, as the keyboard needs a relabel and I'm hitting wrong keys. I'll try to get that done today.
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. I have no ill will towards you whatsoever, btw...just in case you didn't know that already.... Peace
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It does boggle the mind
...but since a 'final' position (for better or for worse) has to be taken, one has to decide using his/her intelligence, a good sense of conviction, and honesty, whether or not presented Evidence is valid or not. Can presented Evidence be verified in an unambiguous manner? If it can't, why should one accept or be convinced by said Evidence? These are pertinent questions which partly determine what "position(s)/stance(s)" an individual takes on Atheism, Theism, Agnosticism and the like.
Peace