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I went to an easter dinner up in the mountains. The woman were all in the kitchen the guys sitting watching TV. Dinner was ready and all the men got up and to the dining room table, not one seat left for the woman.
I was surprised at this as the woman (my husband and BIL) stood there when one of the wive's who could see my surprise whispered, this is how they do it here. The men and boys eat first. There they sat grubbing, first helping, second helping, not a concern for the woman who cooked it. After dinner the men retired back to the living room, everyone else sat down to eat and then cleaned up. DH was smart to wait lol.
I am going to get so flamed but here goes. I am 72 and I do not see many women over 60 that I personally find attractive. Of course there are some (and you are one darling) so do not attempt to prove me totally wrong. Bottom line is it is my personal observance and taste. I would be most interested in would be 35 to 55. Of course they may have no interest in me but that is another story.....LOL
Well....from my point of view as an older woman, I don't see MANY women over 60 that I'd think a guy would find attractive enough to want to get to know. And that most likely includes myself. There's certain physical characteristics that are common to many older women; I see it in public figures and celebs too who have not had any "work" done on themselves or who have let their figures go. I'm not saying I see few older women who are attractive; I'm saying I see few who would be "attractive" to "attractive" older men. And that does not have to mean beautiful or handsome, either. It's just a certain something, je ne sais....
That would probably make most of those folks you're referring to in their late 60s-mid 70s now. I'm probably thinking of people who were that age fifteen or twenty years ago when I was a kid.
My women friends are in their mid 60's now and were raised in the 50's and 60's as was I. Some never married and did without men in their lives by choice. They weren't steeped in careers although all had good jobs and managed to support themselves. They just weren't interested marriage and families.
I really wasn't but thought I should be. It took me ten miserable years of marriage to realize I was wrong. I never tried it again. I know other women who did the same, but the women to which I am referring never had men in their lives other than maybe as friends. They are now retired or retiring living happily and content with who they are and what they have.
I had an aunt who never married. She lived a very glamorous life on a very limited budget. She always had great clothes and handsome boyfriends. She always managed to travel on her budget and shop at the most exclusive thrift shops. She was a real character. No man was ever able to keep up with her although they tried. She always said what did she need one man to take care of when there were so many who wanted to take care of her? But she really never allowed anyone that honor. She died in her late 80's still dancing and having a great time.
What you wrote is quite true, but it goes beyond just being "raised" a certain way. As a species, we are hard-wired by our biological evolution to pair up in male-female pairs for the purpose of procreating and then protecting the children so that they can grow into adulthood. Now our species is pretty flexible and many individuals decide to opt out of the general trends. Like you, I consciously decided I didn't want children and my ex-wife agreed to that before we married.
But in the aggregate most humans will follow the biological imperatives; after all, children are our immortality, ontologically speaking. That is pretty powerful, even though you and I have set it aside, and so regardless of how we were raised, the majority of people are going to pair up in male-female pairs.
In old age, once the original pair bond has been broken by death or divorce, there may not be quite the same imperative at work for many people. Especially if people have had a bad experience in the first marriage, then "once burned, twice careful" may become the operative principal. Both men and women can have the bad experience with the opposite sex, but the number of women alluding to it in this thread is absolutely amazing. But if the personal experience is as bad as they say, I don't blame them for not being interested in living with a man ever again. Traumatic experience is not easy to put aside, nor should it necessarily be a goal to do so.
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Only the women who are irrelevant would think that men are irrelevant!
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