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Old 07-08-2012, 12:51 AM
 
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I've personally went out of my way researching for such a place, and was referred by MANY people (including some blacks) that Seattle was one of the best places. And now, every other post (at least on this thread) is saying otherwise. So WTF is it?
I think you can find this in the Seattle area. Just need to pick the neighborhood accordingly. For example, when I think of the Capitol Hill area; it is usually so mixed with all kinds of 'atypical' that it can shed the other neighborhood whitewashings. It is far enough away from the more homogenous neighborhoods that a person can be pretty much whatever without facing much pressure to join the neighborhood. I would even think anything on the north end up to Edmonds would be fine.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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Atypical? Non-stereotypical Black person? Something about the usage of these terms seems problematic.
Hey, it maybe problematic, but I have no interest in being politically correct.

Stereotypical and atypical black people may mean different things to different people, but I know what it means for me...

...and I'm seeking to avoid that element of my community as if my life depended on it. Quite frankly, I could tolerate most of the aspects that I consider stereotypical/typical if it weren't for the fact that high crime rates are likely a part of the deal.

For instance, I could live in Atlanta - I'd LOVE to live in Atlanta - but I'd never do it without owning a gun. Hell, I could live around ANYONE as long as they don't want to steal what I've earned, or take my head off when I'm not looking.

...and for the coup de grace: Check Seattle proper's violent crime no's. and compare them to DC proper. Very similar population within city limits, but the violent crime numbers are strikingly different. I'm sure you know what I'm implying. Not to mention, violent crime is dropping in many major cities, but what demographic's numbers are dropping along with the drop in crime?

Hey, I don't like what I'm implying anymore than you do, but after searching for safe places to move for around six months, and noticing a saddening pattern in places with high crime rates and low crime rates, I understand why 'some people' don't want to live around 'certain people'. Even more frustrating is that because I am a part of 'certain people', 'some people' treat me as if I'm going do harm to them when I'm trying to avoid the same stuff they're trying to avoid.

Be upset with what I say, but be upset with a reason. If you know a city with a large black population, where I can indulge in black culture, and that place has decent crime stats for a city of it's size, please point me in that direction, 'cause I've been looking pretty darn hard.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Seriously, why can't women choose who they want to date? Why do they have to be racist if they do not want to date a black guy? Get real.


And perhaps its the OP who is the issue and not his race.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Hey, it maybe problematic, but I have no interest in being politically correct.

Stereotypical and atypical black people may mean different things to different people, but I know what it means for me...

...and I'm seeking to avoid that element of my community as if my life depended on it. Quite frankly, I could tolerate most of the aspects that I consider stereotypical/typical if it weren't for the fact that high crime rates are likely a part of the deal.

For instance, I could live in Atlanta - I'd LOVE to live in Atlanta - but I'd never do it without owning a gun. Hell, I could live around ANYONE as long as they don't want to steal what I've earned, or take my head off when I'm not looking.

...and for the coup de grace: Check Seattle proper's violent crime no's. and compare them to DC proper. Very similar population within city limits, but the violent crime numbers are strikingly different. I'm sure you know what I'm implying. Not to mention, violent crime is dropping in many major cities, but what demographic's numbers are dropping along with the drop in crime?

Hey, I don't like what I'm implying anymore than you do, but after searching for safe places to move for around six months, and noticing a saddening pattern in places with high crime rates and low crime rates, I understand why 'some people' don't want to live around 'certain people'. Even more frustrating is that because I am a part of 'certain people', 'some people' treat me as if I'm going do harm to them when I'm trying to avoid the same stuff they're trying to avoid.

Be upset with what I say, but be upset with a reason. If you know a city with a large black population, where I can indulge in black culture, and that place has decent crime stats for a city of it's size, please point me in that direction, 'cause I've been looking pretty darn hard.
Then saying that you want to avoid an urban area with a high crime rate would have done the trick.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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Seriously, why can't women choose who they want to date? Why do they have to be racist if they do not want to date a black guy? Get real.


And perhaps its the OP who is the issue and not his race.
Are you saying that race isn't a factor in who people choose to date?
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:44 AM
 
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Are you saying that race isn't a factor in who people choose to date?
wow...someone knows how to read.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Regarding the conversation above (though I'm not sure if this helps): I'm Latino, and when I lived in a city that at most was 4% Latino, I never felt freer in my life.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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As a black looking male (my mom is black puerto rican, my dad is dagestani but I ended up with her skin tone) I noticed everywhere I went those ads to appear mostly amongst white and asian females. So I'd imagine they'd be higher in a place like seattle where the percentage of white women are more common (and asian females).

here's some of the many reasons i never let it bother me:

1)we blacks have an image in the media for better or worse and are stereotyped by it. A lot of white women and asian women with VERY little experience with black men will somehow internalize that image and not want to date us. On the flip, the same amount or even more, internalize that image and ACTIVELY seek us out just as an experiment (to see if the image is true), or because they like what's the image about. I suspect that almost every white female sometime in her life has dated, had sex with a black male.

2)There are traditional people out there with strong family pressures who don't want their daughters dating outside of the race:that is especially for black males. Asian girls especially come from these kind of families but so do many white girls. And as much as these pressures work on some girls, they backfire on a equal (or more) number of girls who again actively seek us out to demonstrate independence.

3)Some of them had very bad experiences with black males. And that's unfortunate. But usually starting a relationship with these girls is already a poisoned course anyway.

4)Some are looking to start a family and only want a family with another person of their same race. There's nothing you can do here. Just move on.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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I just want to add, and not to come across as a jackass....

people who have trouble dating in one location seem to have trouble in EVERY location. They often blame the location for the women but in reality it's mostly them. Yes, there are plenty of women in seattle who don't date black men but there are more who do, or who are open to them. Time to examine yourself a little bit more.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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As a black looking male (my mom is black puerto rican, my dad is dagestani but I ended up with her skin tone) I noticed everywhere I went those ads to appear mostly amongst white and asian females. So I'd imagine they'd be higher in a place like seattle where the percentage of white women are more common (and asian females).

here's some of the many reasons i never let it bother me:

1)we blacks have an image in the media for better or worse and are stereotyped by it. A lot of white women and asian women with VERY little experience with black men will somehow internalize that image and not want to date us. On the flip, the same amount or even more, internalize that image and ACTIVELY seek us out just as an experiment (to see if the image is true), or because they like what's the image about. I suspect that almost every white female sometime in her life has dated, had sex with a black male.

2)There are traditional people out there with strong family pressures who don't want their daughters dating outside of the race:that is especially for black males. Asian girls especially come from these kind of families but so do many white girls. And as much as these pressures work on some girls, they backfire on a equal (or more) number of girls who again actively seek us out to demonstrate independence.

3)Some of them had very bad experiences with black males. And that's unfortunate. But usually starting a relationship with these girls is already a poisoned course anyway.

4)Some are looking to start a family and only want a family with another person of their same race. There's nothing you can do here. Just move on.
#1...uh...yeah, someone has watched one too many interracial porn videos.

I have dated black women...nothing wrong with them but I don't go out searching for black, white, asian women to date. ITS WHOMEVER I LIKE. If she happens to be black, so be it. If she happens to be 12 toed and cockeyed, so be it. ONCE AGAIN, WHY LET RACE DICTATE YOUR DATING PREFERENCES? Obviously to those that focus on race, its nothing about the person but more of sexual preference which you might as well visit a massage parlor for (cut to scene with Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan in "buffet brothel" Rush Hour 2)

If you really like that person, and they like you...then race has nothing to do with it. You can't force someone to like you. Sounds like all these guys (unfortunately they are all black males with apparent ego problems) are hell bent on white women conquest. Not dating for love and relationships.
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