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Old 08-13-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Again, YOU DON'T NEED TO WORK FOR THEM!

Go start a company yourself, work for yourself. You don't need to work for anybody if you don't think you are compensated properly.
There are few things more irritating than dunces who scream "Start your own company!" when someone is having a tough time finding a job.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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There are few things more irritating than dunces who scream "Start your own company!" when someone is having a tough time finding a job.
Dunces? How about the ones who can't grasp the difference between people who are disdainful of 8 bucks an hour and those who are unemployed?

Get with the thread.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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There are few things more irritating than dunces who scream "Start your own company!" when someone is having a tough time finding a job.
You are the one who said you don't want to work for $8/hour. What are the other choices do you have?
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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You are the one who said you don't want to work for $8/hour. What are the other choices do you have?
I didn't say anything about not wanting to work for 8 an hour. I have gotten by on that while looking for better paying jobs. The problem is that the majority of jobs being created in this economy tend to be in the low-wage sector. That is forcing overqualified people into taking those jobs, since it's harder to get into something that would fit their pay grade in a healthy economy.

Starting your own business is a lousy suggestion because many people don't have the ability (and in a ton of cases, the money) to do that. You need money just to get started, and even if you are great at it you probably won't generate a profit for at least a couple of years. That, and if you fail (and the HUGE majority who start businesses will,) you will end up deeper in the hole than when you started.

8 Questions to Ask Before Launching Your Own Business - On Careers (usnews.com)

I suggest reading that and seeing just how much it takes before blindly throwing out the "Start your own business!" rhetoric.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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I didn't say anything about not wanting to work for 8 an hour. I have gotten by on that while looking for better paying jobs. The problem is that the majority of jobs being created in this economy tend to be in the low-wage sector. That is forcing overqualified people into taking those jobs, since it's harder to get into something that would fit their pay grade in a healthy economy.

Starting your own business is a lousy suggestion because many people don't have the ability (and in a ton of cases, the money) to do that. You need money just to get started, and even if you are great at it you probably won't generate a profit for at least a couple of years. That, and if you fail (and the HUGE majority who start businesses will,) you will end up deeper in the hole than when you started.

8 Questions to Ask Before Launching Your Own Business - On Careers (usnews.com)

I suggest reading that and seeing just how much it takes before blindly throwing out the "Start your own business!" rhetoric.

I happen to know what it takes to start your own business though many businesses don't require either skills or capital to start such as lawn mow and janitorial service. My parents did that for a while when they first immigrated to the country legally.

So you want to work for $8/hour but want to call that slavery? I am not following you.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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I happen to know what it takes to start your own business though many businesses don't require either skills or capital to start such as lawn mow and janitorial service. My parents did that for a while when they first immigrated to the country legally.

So you want to work for $8/hour but want to call that slavery? I am not following you.
I don't know why you are assuming all this, I never said that 8 an hour is slavery.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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I don't know why you are assuming all this, I never said that 8 an hour is slavery.
Consider who you're talking to.

You won't win (you'll never get your point across).
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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I don't know why you are assuming all this, I never said that 8 an hour is slavery.
I am pretty sure you know what we are talking about here.

So you disagree with my opinion and you disagree with theirs?
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I completely disagree with this. This is not 1712; this is 2012 where we don't have slavery. It's a free market. You don't have to work for $8/hour if you don't want to. Nobody puts a gun on your head to force you to accept it.

Let me get this straight:

1. You need the money
2. You agree to take the $8/hour to do the job
3. You call this exploitative?

You have to be kidding me. If you don't like the salary, walk away or open your own company. Frankly speaking, there are literally billions of people wanting that $8/hour. You don't want it, the company will just easily ship that job overseas where people are willing to work for $8/day. You need the money more than the company need you.

Please get out of this entitlement mentality. America was not built on "I deserve XYZ." America was built on "I earned XYZ with my effort."

And I completely disagree with you. The free market is a sham and doesn't work. Anyone who buys into the right-wing/libertarian philosophy of free markets is only fooling themselves.

Your entire reply to me only reeks of propagating the race to the bottom. If you want to be someone's property, that's fine with me. Just don't look at me when you need someone to back you up when fighting for you right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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And I completely disagree with you. The free market is a sham and doesn't work. Anyone who buys into the right-wing/libertarian philosophy of free markets is only fooling themselves.

Your entire reply to me only reeks of propagating the race to the bottom. If you want to be someone's property, that's fine with me. Just don't look at me when you need someone to back you up when fighting for you right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Suggesting that people are fooling themselves is not a valid reason why the free market may or may not be a sham. Have you considered justifying your claims?
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