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There really isn't anything else we can say janelle.
They have heard us say this time and again but continue to insist they don't understand.
The only logical answer is that they do understand what we are saying, but they apparently feel driven to tell us why we are wrong for our beliefs.
We could just as easily tell them why we think THEY are wrong, but we aren't interested in disrespecting their beliefs or converting them to ours
Just wish they would give us the same respect.
No one has condoned or condemned in word.
All have given respect. Do not confuse we all have conviction. Communication is the goal to understand the Spirit.
One point brought up is asking others to pray for us. I understand this in context.
The only misgivings I have were posted. I grew up confused and know one around could give me answers.
The world has many stumbling blocks. And I find the organizations to be a part of this. The have convoluted, compounded, and separated our understanding of God. Secularism is not real to the Spirit of Truth. You will find it when sought. The boundaries of cultural thought when groomed all have the same Garden underneath. When the husbandman comes into our lives we see this.
One of my favorite scriptures.
Hebrews ch 12 vs…28Therefore, since we receive a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude, by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe; 29for our God is a consuming fire.
No one has condoned or condemned in word.
All have given respect.
Then could you explain your statement that it's time to start "fixing" things? Fixing something implies that it's broken. Catholics don't need to have a non-Catholic "fixing" what they believe. I'm not even a practicing Catholic and I found that to be a very disrespectful statement.
Then could you explain your statement that it's time to start "fixing" things? Fixing something implies that it's broken. Catholics don't need to have a non-Catholic "fixing" what they believe. I'm not even a practicing Catholic and I found that to be a very disrespectful statement.
As was stated above this comment I had friends that did not know the word of God. I did not infer to any individual denomination. I meant all the doctrines of men need to be fixed. What needs to be fixed is the confusion that is out there. If it is not of God it is not of Truth. If my grammer is off sorry. If you wish to find fault that is where it lies. In another thread I stated all denominations are in need.
If you pay attention to the world you will see a build up of false doctrine being pushed to all the sheep.
Spiritual warfare is a serious endeavor. Once I was Baptized by Fire things changed. My conviction is Spirit compelling. If you feel accused then that is another Spirit.
Then could you explain your statement that it's time to start "fixing" things? Fixing something implies that it's broken. Catholics don't need to have a non-Catholic "fixing" what they believe. I'm not even a practicing Catholic and I found that to be a very disrespectful statement.
I do not remember When fixing became disrespectful. If I were to walk down the street and saw a house that was in need of repair. Maybe sanding paint and what not. I offer my service. And I offer it for Free. Do you think someone in their right mind would tell me I am disrespectful. If they felt offended, what makes us offended in our house? Shame.
And a piece of free advice: you are thisclose to a personal attack, and you are WAY out-of-bounds, when you start making those sorts of declarations about people. Just stop.
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Well, once again I am unable to interpret pinacled-speak.
Shame on me? For sticking up for the Catholics when I think they're being disrespected? I can live with that. Lol, no problem.
I have many catholic friends. we discuss our beliefs all the time. One did not know what a saint was. And still is confused. I tried to explain the RCC has patron saints. And I tried to explain that all followers of Christ are Saints. Another Spent his prayers and worship on angels.
"I have come to reconcile what I have seen in the world. "
Its time to start fixing things.
Here I have given the sentence so those can better understand. This statement is separate.
When speaking about the word of God there is no such denominational standard to hide behind. I am a Christian an individual member of many. And the many members of the body are the Church. Christ being the head. If you are of the Church of God I say claim it.
To be a member of the body makes you a SAINT of LIGHT. And who is the Father of LIGHTS?
If you have something to offer bring it to the table. Preferably something with sustenance.
I have many catholic friends. we discuss our beliefs all the time. One did not know what a saint was. And still is confused. I tried to explain the RCC has patron saints. And I tried to explain that all followers of Christ are Saints. Another Spent his prayers and worship on angels.
Catholic religious education seems to have declined of late. In my day [/creaky old man voice] there was no way to get through Catholic school without knowing at least the basics. And your examples are indeed basics. It may be that the individuals involved did not actually go to Catholic school.
I have already answered all these questions and even linked to videos explaining it. WE DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE OR ANYTHING EXCEPT GOD. I don't know how to make it any clearer.
You think prayer is only worship, many religions think of prayer as both as in addition to asking for intersessions. So if someone asks you to pray for them, you think you would be the intercessor between them and God? If so then you need to stop praying for people.
I get from the tone of your response your question about praying for others was not sincere but I will leave you this at James 5:14-16 and if you sincerely would like to talk you can or PM me.
I do find it ironic that you keep saying "we" don't worship but others on this very thread and Christianity forum who identify themselves as Catholics admit to worshiping Mary and Saints. Maybe you should change that to "I" and even then I did show you that in actuality you do worship, although I get from you it's unintentionally. The videos you posted I will not watch as someone who seeks only truth. If its purpose was to back up your point, which I already showed I did not agree based on the bible, to what benefit would it be for me? If you know 2+2=4 from qualified teachers would you read books from someone proving the correct answer is 5 if their reason was because it was half taught but mostly opinion?
You say MANY religions, but the bible speaks of one true faith. I don't doubt there are many religions who believe things but can it not be agreed that not all are true? Even if there was truth in all religions, as someone said on a site once, from what original source did such truth arise? For even Gods word speaks of one true faith and way, not many. It also mentions Babylon the Great as false religion "sitting on many waters" which will be destroyed so we cannot go off off quantity but only quality of teachings of what the fruit the tree produces to find truth. NONE OF US should be scared of being readjusted if what is presented is truthful. Even I welcome corrective counsel when applicable since it makes me a better servant but... such corrective counsel must be proven not just told to go off tradition of men. (Mark 7:7,8)
Could it be some of your frustrations are the ones who question your stance have backed their points by scriptures while you can only recite traditions and opinions? Each point you make I respond based on additional research and questioning not to argue but present my thoughts so you can see these are not my opinions but thoughts based on Gods word. True, it's mentioned that Catholics do not use the bible as Christians then how can you REALLY know what traditions or words taught to you are truth? From what other sources can you lean to see if ones are in fact teaching truth or if what you hold on to is history, traditions and passion and not truth in understanding and testing? That's all I asked. We are to keep testing we are in the faith so yes I will question you that doesn't mean I am trying to be mean but rather trying to have you prove your point without it just ending at "its tradition". Hope you understand and hope you have a good day.
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