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Answers EXPLAIN the principle involved, JBF. Yours do not. they merely assert that it is true (because you say so and believe it). Those are not answers, they are ignorant doctrinal platitudes.
The book of Hebrews answers the questions presented, in great detail.
The book of Hebrews answers the questions presented, in great detail.
So, it's about a blood sacrifice within the boundaries of man's traditions to appease an angry god? Apparently, they considered tradition more important than the move of the Holy Spirit, and it often led to a lack of love, compassion; and that of God doing a new thing in their mind and hearts.
The book of Hebrews answers the questions presented, in great detail.
What do you not understand about the FACT that the scriptures were interpreted using belief in a wrathful and vengeful War God who is the OPPOSITE of the God revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross?????
What do you not understand about the FACT that the scriptures were interpreted using belief in a wrathful and vengeful War God who is the OPPOSITE of the God revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross?????
Well, since the writer of Hebrews agrees with Paul, Peter and Jesus, I’m gonna go with them over you.
What do you not understand about the FACT that the scriptures were interpreted using belief in a wrathful and vengeful War God who is the OPPOSITE of the God revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross?????
Daniel 1:17
"As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams."
Do you think that just maybe God could have given the authors some of this wisdom to pen the Word of God?
What do you not understand about the FACT that the scriptures were interpreted using belief in a wrathful and vengeful War God who is the OPPOSITE of the God revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross?????
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Well, since the writer of Hebrews agrees with Paul, Peter and Jesus, I’m gonna go with them over you.
How can Jesus disagree with Jesus on the Cross, Jimmie??? Either Jesus IS God or He is NOT! What men say Jesus said or taught HAS to agree with Jesus as revealed on the Cross or it is messed up!
Daniel 1:17
"As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams."
Do you think that just maybe God could have given the authors some of this wisdom to pen the Word of God?
Charlie, God COULD have done a lot of things. He is God, but He gave us free will and Dominion here and did not take it back so there is no evidence that He did any such thing. God's inspirations are NOT dictation and our interpretations of them are completely subject to our human fallibility, frailties, and flaws, Charlie.
How can Jesus disagree with Jesus on the Cross, Jimmie??? Either Jesus IS God or He is NOT! What men say Jesus said or taught HAS to agree with Jesus as revealed on the Cross or it is messed up!
Matt. 26
27 Then he (Jesus) took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”
1 Peter 1
18 You were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world.
Romans 3
whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed. -Paul
Hebrews 9:12-14
and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
27 Then he (Jesus) took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”
1 Peter 1
18 You were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world.
Romans 3
whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed. -Paul
Hebrews 9:12-14
and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
How do you not see that this is the result of their misunderstanding of God's True Nature as they tried to explain and justify what happened to Jesus? As God, Jesus could have smote them all instead of submitting to their wrath and vengeance. Our ancestors believed everything negative that happened was demanded by the wrath of God so they had to interpret His submission as meaning God somehow needed to be paid for something. This stupid primitive interpretation has been rationalized and reasoned to death trying to pretend it makes any sense at all!!!!!!
How many time does it need to be explain to you that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father?
How many time have you seen this explained to you?
Heck BF you did not even want to be saved until He took a hold of you and shook you out of your sleep.
I can tell you that there was a time that I thought praising God for eternity would be the LAST thing I'd want to do. I did not like God. So please explain how it is that you believe a person that hates God will want to be in his presence for eternity?
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