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"Where Have All the Loving Christians Gone?"...Maybe it was all smoke and mirrors ? They existed in name only ?
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Gemstone1
The contention is that Christians who believe in hellfire and brimstone are not loving and that only those "Christians" who deny this basic doctrine of holy scripture are truly loving.
It is not seen by those who make this contention that those who believe in hellfire and brimstone exhibit the love of Christ by seeking to evangelize the lost in order to deliver them from hell.
The contention is that Christians who believe in hellfire and brimstone are not loving and that only those "Christians" who deny this basic doctrine of holy scripture are truly loving.
It is not seen by those who make this contention that those who believe in hellfire and brimstone exhibit the love of Christ by seeking to evangelize the lost in order to deliver them from hell.
Our ignorant, primitive, and savage ancestors needed such extreme threats to tame their savagery during the schoolmaster stage of our spiritual evolution. We are in real trouble if we have not evolved past such ridiculously absurd and evil threats. They foster fear of God and obedience but NOT the agape love of God and forgiveness of each other that God actually wants from us as revealed by Jesus on the Cross!!!
Surely mankind has evolved since Jesus did His thing on earth and such passages as Jeremiah 17:9, Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13, no longer apply to humanity!
Mankind no longer needs forgiveness; he only needs to follow Jesus' example.
Of course, if he has not followed Jesus' example, he has not sinned. There is no wrath against sin; just a loving grandfather in the sky who looks the other way when we commit atrocity.
Surely mankind has evolved since Jesus did His thing on earth and such passages as Jeremiah 17:9, Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13, no longer apply to humanity!
Mankind no longer needs forgiveness; he only needs to follow Jesus' example.
Of course, if he has not followed Jesus' example, he has not sinned. There is no wrath against sin; just a loving grandfather in the sky who looks the other way when we commit atrocity.
You are the worst of all liars and expect to be welcomed by God??? You know the bold is total BS and the creation of your sick imagination. No one has ever said any such thing. But you think you are somehow defending your wrathful God by lying about it. Your deceit and ignorance disgust me.
There is no wrath or vengeance but there are plenty of negative consequences that don't involve any wrath or vengeance and certainly not any eternal hell or damnation!!! Because He is God His justice is Divine, not our imperfect punitive pretense of justice. The scales of justice will be balanced for everyone involved, perpetrators and victims alike, something our imperfect justice can never achieve!.
Okay, so at least you understand that there will be just judgment (justice) as concerning sin, Mystic.
I think that we may be getting somewhere.
Now, what you need to realize is that for those who are cast into hell, the sin nature has not been dealt with.
I have already explained the rest on not a few occasions. So, I am not going to bore everyone with the details by reiterating what that means for the sinner who has rejected Christ.
Okay, so at least you understand that there will be just judgment (justice) as concerning sin, Mystic.
I think that we may be getting somewhere.
Now, what you need to realize is that for those who are cast into hell, the sin nature has not been dealt with.
I have already explained the rest on not a few occasions. So, I am not going to bore everyone with the details by reiterating what that means for the sinner who has rejected Christ.
No one rejects Christ. Most just reject the irrational, primitive, barbaric, and stupid things you believe ABOUT Him and God. Others just do not believe in God or prefer some other belief about God. Your focus is completely on the wrong things. God and Jesus have no ego to brownnose but you are relying on it.
Your sick belief that God cannot in any way change the mind of sinners after death if they have not believed what YOU think they need to believe is beyond preposterous. God is God and He WILL change everyone's mind, although for some hard cases it may take a while in refinement.
No one rejects Christ. Most just reject the irrational, primitive, barbaric, and stupid things you believe ABOUT Him and God. Others just do not believe in God or prefer some other belief about God. Your focus is completely on the wrong things. God and Jesus have no ego to brownnose but you are relying on it.
Your sick belief that God cannot in any way change the mind of sinners after death if they have not believed what YOU think they need to believe is beyond preposterous. God is God and He WILL change everyone's mind, although for some hard cases it may take a while in refinement.
I would love it if that were the case.
However, the scripture is clear that there is such a thing as everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46, Romans 11:9-10).
And, the reality is, that most people make their final decisions about God before they pass into the next life.
Rejecting Christ permanently is the definition of the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost; such a person hath never forgiveness.
How then will they make a decision for Christ after they are dead? Even if they did, it would not avail for them to bring them the forgiveness of their sins.
I would love it if that were the case.
However, the scripture is clear that there is such a thing as everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46, Romans 11:9-10).
And, the reality is, that most people make their final decisions about God before they pass into the next life.
Rejecting Christ permanently is the definition of the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost; such a person hath never forgiveness.
How then will they make a decision for Christ after they are dead? Even if they did, it would not avail for them to bring them the forgiveness of their sins.
Blaspheming Jesus is specifically allowed in scripture so it is certainly NOT the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That nonsense is ALL the convoluted imagining of your own mind, JBF, as you try to understand Jesus under the veil of ignorance from reading the OT and Moses while deliberately ignoring and refusing to even try to use God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness as revealed by Jesus on the Cross.
Rejecting and refusing to use the Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness and choosing instead to use wrath and vengeance IS blaspheming the Holy Spirit in my estimation which is why I fear for both you and Charlie.
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