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Old 09-03-2021, 02:17 PM
 
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God does not ignore wrongdoing. He corrects it and its effects in His Divine Justice that bears no resemblance to the imperfect punitive human justice you think is justice. His ways are not our ways. His Divine Justice balances the scales for ALL involved, perpetrators and victims alike. That is something our punitive human justice can never achieve and which an eternal punishment makes an absolute mockery of.
Tell this junk to those in Rev. 9 when under the judgement of God they refused to repent!

Or should I say that they will refuse to repent, as this is yet to come!

When you come to the knowledge of free will you will then begin to put it all together.
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Old 09-03-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I will believe anything you say if you can back it up with Scripture, in context.
No you won't. You'll just say my interpretation of the scripture I'm citing is wrong. That's where the vast majority of our disagreements stem from.
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Old 09-03-2021, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's one of the most loving things to warn those in unbelief, on their way to eternal damnation, to repent and believe the good news of Jesus Christ, who died for all peoples sins and offers forgiveness to those who will repent.
It's not loving to assume that you are in a position to be able to say that someone else is "on their way to eternal damnation." That is, quite simply, above your pay grade.
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Old 09-03-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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God does not ignore wrongdoing. He corrects it and its effects in His Divine Justice that bears no resemblance to the imperfect punitive human justice you think is justice. His ways are not our ways. His Divine Justice balances the scales for ALL involved, perpetrators and victims alike. That is something our punitive human justice can never achieve and which an eternal punishment makes an absolute mockery of.
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Tell this junk to those in Rev. 9 when under the judgement of God they refused to repent!
Or should I say that they will refuse to repent, as this is yet to come!
When you come to the knowledge of free will you will then begin to put it all together.
Dominion and free will ONLY apply to our life on earth, Charlie. Once we die and are "born again" as spirits, all bets are off!!! We are literally in the hands of God. You try telling God what He cannot do and let me know how that works out for you.
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Old 09-03-2021, 02:55 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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It's not loving to assume that you are in a position to be able to say that someone else is "on their way to eternal damnation." That is, quite simply, above your pay grade.
Not only is it beyond his pay grade, it is beyond his understanding.

There is no such animal in all of ABBA's barnyard know as aidios krima or aidios krisis.

"Just think of it: You are known and remembered by the most majestic, powerful, and glorious Being in the universe! You are loved by the King of infinite space and everlasting time."
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Old 09-03-2021, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The God I love, and the one presented in the Bible, also loves us beyond anything we can imagine or describe.

He loves us so much that he actually took on human flesh to die on a cross to pay the penalty for our sin. So he's not only loving, but he's just. He isn't the corrupt god you speak of that ignores wrongdoing.
And, if you are not loving him back, does he withdraw his love, sending you to an eternal hellhole.
Wherein, you must suffer in anguish for all eternity, or is it merely for not believing the Bible?
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Old 09-03-2021, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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"Just think of it: You are known and remembered by the most majestic, powerful, and glorious Being in the universe! You are loved by the King of infinite space and everlasting time."
Truer words were never spoken.
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Old 09-03-2021, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It's one of the most loving things to warn those in unbelief, on their way to eternal damnation, to repent and believe the good news of Jesus Christ, who died for all peoples sins and offers forgiveness to those who will repent.
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It's not loving to assume that you are in a position to be able to say that someone else is "on their way to eternal damnation." That is, quite simply, above your pay grade.
OK, but it should be pointed out that Jesus said the same thing, recorded in John 3.
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Old 09-03-2021, 03:16 PM
 
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OK, but it should be pointed out that Jesus said the same thing, recorded in John 3.
It should also be pointed out that Jesus knows the condition of every person's heart. Augiedogie doesn't. And this is why we need to leave the judgment up to God and stop worrying about the beam in the other guy's eye.
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Old 09-03-2021, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It should also be pointed out that Jesus knows the condition of every person's heart. Augiedogie doesn't.
Agreed. Still, it is an act of love to share the gospel, pointing out the condition of man with and without Christ.
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