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But my interpretation is that God as Jesus on the Cross DID forgive us! He EXPLICITLY said so as He unambiguously demonstrated His agape love and forgiveness when He said "Father forgive them they know not what they do. "
Sorry for the implication that you have something in common with me, Mystic. In justbyfaith's mind, there is no worse insult than to be described as being Mormon-like. I'm sure he thinks he has scraped the bottom of the barrel with that comparison. Poor misguided soul.
You simply refuse to accept the truth that our ancestors believed in a wrathful and vengeful War God because of Moses and the schoolmaster stage from which they learned about God. They simply could not even imagine a different God even with Jesus as God in the flesh. Using their interpretations expressing those beliefs is not persuasive given the Holy Spirit of agape love revealed by Jesus on the Cross.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
2Pe 1:19, We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
2Pe 1:20, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21, For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
More mindless and thoughtless recitation of scripture you deliberately refuse to properly interpret using God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness as revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross. Your interpretations using the wrath of God make you a child of wrath, NOT a child of God's love.
No, I do not exclude any denomination; for I believe that you are defining some that would be referred to as cults, as denominations.
It should be clear that if any organization preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus of the Bible, they are attempting with the devil to corrupt people's minds from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3-4).
Maybe you should check your definition of "cult" with commonly accepted dictionaries, such as dictionary.com or Merriam-Webster. That's what we did when we wrote the entry for the rules thread at the top of the forum.
A cult does not have millions of members or hundreds of congregations.
In the 13+ years that I have been a member here, I have never seen anybody refer to a Jesus that wasn't the Jesus of the Bible.
Any further reference to a denomination (Mormon, Catholic, or otherwise) as a lie or as cult-like will be dealt with harshly. That kind of behavior is contrary to the concepts that City-Data established when these forums were created.
I believe that a cult is defined by Walter Martin's book on "The Kingdom of the Cults".
I have refrained from calling any "denomination" a cult here but will let that book speak for itself as pertaining to what may or may not be defined as a cult.
if anyone wants my opinion on whether mormonism, Catholicism, or any other "denomination" is a cult, then let them go to that book and discover the truth that is believed in by me on this issue; for I am forbidden to say outright what I believe on the matter and am inclined to respect rules that are set forth because I seek to be blameless as concerning all rules.
Of course, when love dictates that I say something contrary to the rules, I may have to take my chances and do the loving thing instead of obeying the rules.
But here, I believe that I have struck a medium and have said the loving thing without violating the rule in question;
Because I did not make any statement here about any particular "denomination" but have referenced Walter Martin's book so that people can pick up on my opinion if they read that book.
Walter Martin is the late director of the Christian Research Institute and would have a good handle on the subject of what is a cult and what isn't one.
Sorry for the implication that you have something in common with me, Mystic. In justbyfaith's mind, there is no worse insult than to be described as being Mormon-like. I'm sure he thinks he has scraped the bottom of the barrel with that comparison. Poor misguided soul.
No; actually, I believe that mormons are good people.
No, I do not exclude any denomination; for I believe that you are defining some that would be referred to as cults, as denominations.
It should be clear that if any organization preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus of the Bible, they are attempting with the devil to corrupt people's minds from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3-4).
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Originally Posted by mensaguy
Maybe you should check your definition of "cult" with commonly accepted dictionaries, such as dictionary.com or Merriam-Webster. That's what we did when we wrote the entry for the rules thread at the top of the forum.
A cult does not have millions of members or hundreds of congregations.
In the 13+ years that I have been a member here, I have never seen anybody refer to a Jesus that wasn't the Jesus of the Bible.
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Originally Posted by mensaguy
Any further reference to a denomination (Mormon, Catholic, or otherwise) as a lie or as cult-like will be dealt with harshly. That kind of behavior is contrary to the concepts that City-Data established when these forums were created.
And of course, in the post above, I did not refer to any particular "denomination" as a cult by name.
I believe that a cult is defined by Walter Martin's book on "The Kingdom of the Cults".
I have refrained from calling any "denomination" a cult here but will let that book speak for itself as pertaining to what may or may not be defined as a cult.
if anyone wants my opinion on whether mormonism, Catholicism, or any other "denomination" is a cult, then let them go to that book and discover the truth that is believed in by me on this issue; for I am forbidden to say outright what I believe on the matter and am inclined to respect rules that are set forth because I seek to be blameless as concerning all rules.
Of course, when love dictates that I say something contrary to the rules, I may have to take my chances and do the loving thing instead of obeying the rules.
But here, I believe that I have struck a medium and have said the loving thing without violating the rule in question;
Because I did not make any statement here about any particular "denomination" but have referenced Walter Martin's book so that people can pick up on my opinion if they read that book.
Walter Martin is the late director of the Christian Research Institute and would have a good handle on the subject of what is a cult and what isn't one.
According to the Wikipedia article about that book, "Martin defines "a cult" as "a group of people gathered about a specific person — or person's misinterpretation of the Bible," while admitting that in spite of "distorting Scripture" such groups' teachings may contain "considerable truths" that have Biblical support but have become de-emphasized by mainstream Christianity, such as divine healing and prophecy."
That definition is at odds with all the dictionary definitions I found.
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