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God is the Father of spirits in the sense that he created each and everyone of us.
Thus, he is our Spiritual Father. And we are to relate to him as such in spirit and truth.
I know you have been convinced that everyone by nature is a sinner (and rebels against God).
However, that's not true.
while actually Adam does rebel against God because the flesh wars against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh. I think it come down to knowing who Adam is, that which is of flesh is flesh. In other words brother our old man nature is the first man Adam.
Which is well above our personal, individual “pay gradesâ€
That is why we are told this in Ephesians
Eph 6:12**For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13**Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
I know you have been convinced that everyone by nature is a sinner (and rebels against God).
However, that's not true.
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Originally Posted by pneuma
while actually Adam does rebel against God because the flesh wars against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh. I think it come down to knowing who Adam is, that which is of flesh is flesh. In other words brother our old man nature is the first man Adam.
I get what you are saying. However, I don't believe everyone is a sinner by nature, nor does everyone rebel against God. I have never believed that we are separate from that which brought all things into existence. Let the spirit guide and control who you are, and you won't be warring against the flesh. Although, I do know that many cannot control their own flesh, and struggle with this, albeit, not all have that weakness. Right now, I am enjoying the untainted spirit within my granddaughter, who has not been subjected to the thoughts of men.
I get what you are saying. However, I don't believe everyone is a sinner by nature, nor does everyone rebel against God. I have never believed that we are separate from that which brought all things into existence. Let the spirit guide and control who you are, and you won't be warring against the flesh. Although, I do know that many cannot control their own flesh, and struggle with this, albeit, not all have that weakness. Right now, I am enjoying the untainted spirit within my granddaughter, who has not been subjected to the thoughts of men.
I get what you are saying also jer for if we walk in the spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh/that which is of our adamic nature.
I get what you are saying. However, I don't believe everyone is a sinner by nature, nor does everyone rebel against God. I have never believed that we are separate from that which brought all things into existence. Let the spirit guide and control who you are, and you won't be warring against the flesh. Although, I do know that many cannot control their own flesh, and struggle with this, albeit, not all have that weakness. Right now, I am enjoying the untainted spirit within my granddaughter, who has not been subjected to the thoughts of men.
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Originally Posted by pneuma
I get what you are saying also jer for if we walk in the spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh/that which is of our adamic nature.
Rebellion against God. They are sinners by nature. The same as everyone else.
So God would punish a two-day old child for rebellion?
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What verse?
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
The DNA of sin was passed down through Adam to the entire human race, according to Romans 5:12-14.
I'm sure you must know, at least I hope you do, that there is nothing in a person's DNA that is linked to sin.
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